[OT] Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-12 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:16:48PM +0200, Andrew Shadura a écrit :
 
 On 12 May 2014 11:54, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
  Systemd is the default init system for jessie, and it should be listed
  as the first alternative. The fact that an alternative codepath exists
  for users with specific needs is nice for them, but it is not what we
  should focus our efforts on.
 
  As far as GDM is concerned, any bug reported with systemd-shim installed
  will be ignored. The bug script should probably be updated to that
  effect, BTW.
 
 This sort of behaviour is precisely why so many people not only
 dislike systemd, but also it's maintainers.

Hi Andrew,

this is the tragedy of the commons: the time and patience of maintainers can be
equally spent by anybody who thinksthat his opinion on systemd ought to be
listened, and therefore by the time one has a valid criticism to make, the
maintainers time and patience has been spent up by others.  Message filters are
a solution to this.

Cheers,

-- 
Charles Plessy
Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan


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Re: [OT] Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:
 Le Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:16:48PM +0200, Andrew Shadura a écrit :
 On 12 May 2014 11:54, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:

 Systemd is the default init system for jessie, and it should be listed
 as the first alternative. The fact that an alternative codepath exists
 for users with specific needs is nice for them, but it is not what we
 should focus our efforts on.

 As far as GDM is concerned, any bug reported with systemd-shim
 installed will be ignored. The bug script should probably be updated
 to that effect, BTW.

 This sort of behaviour is precisely why so many people not only dislike
 systemd, but also it's maintainers.

 Hi Andrew,

 this is the tragedy of the commons: the time and patience of maintainers
 can be equally spent by anybody who thinks that his opinion on systemd
 ought to be listened, and therefore by the time one has a valid
 criticism to make, the maintainers time and patience has been spent up
 by others.  Message filters are a solution to this.

I hate to post a simple me too message, but this is so well put that I
just have to.  This, exactly.

-- 
Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org)   http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/


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