Re: [Q]: GNU inetutils and debian inetutils not in sync??

2001-09-25 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

> Previously Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > Of course the package is GPL'ed (just like sysklogd is GPL'ed, although it
> > is forked from the BSD code), but that is not the motivation.
> 
> How can it be GPL'ed if it is modified BSD licensed code? Or has
> every line been rewritten?

BSD licenses pretty much allows that. It's not GPL; this is the main
reason why Microsoft is attacking GPL right now, and not BSDish licenses,
because they can port BSD'ed software to Windows and sell it for $$$ under
a proprietary license. Not with GPL...

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Re: [Q]: GNU inetutils and debian inetutils not in sync??

2001-09-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

> Previously Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > Of course the package is GPL'ed (just like sysklogd is GPL'ed, although it
> > is forked from the BSD code), but that is not the motivation.

> How can it be GPL'ed if it is modified BSD licensed code? Or has
> every line been rewritten?

The new-style BSD license is GPL compatible, where 'GPL compatible' means
someone can take code released under this license, modify it, and re-release
it under the GPL.

Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer




Re: [Q]: GNU inetutils and debian inetutils not in sync??

2001-09-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 03:43:27AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 07:20:23AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> > GNU inetutils is a FSF implementation, ours is the original BSD.
> > 
> > The FSF is re-implementing long existing code so that they can GPL it.
> 
> Uh, this is dead wrong, at least in the case of inetutils.  The GNU inetutils
> started out as a port of the BSD code to the GNU Hurd platform, and it was 
> done
> by Miles Bader.  In a desire to do the right thing, the code was actually
> modified to be portable across many systems.  There are plans to do more with
> the code (new features etc).
> 
> Of course the package is GPL'ed (just like sysklogd is GPL'ed, although it
> is forked from the BSD code), but that is not the motivation.

Stop combatting hysteria with the facts.  Don't you know that's not how
this Project is supposed to work?

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Re: [Q]: GNU inetutils and debian inetutils not in sync??

2001-09-24 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> Of course the package is GPL'ed (just like sysklogd is GPL'ed, although it
> is forked from the BSD code), but that is not the motivation.

How can it be GPL'ed if it is modified BSD licensed code? Or has
every line been rewritten?

Wichert.

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Re: [Q]: GNU inetutils and debian inetutils not in sync??

2001-09-24 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 04:04:08PM +0200, Francis ANDRE wrote:
> Hi DDG
> 
> I check out the www.gnu.org inetutils against debian inetutils and I found 
> them out of sync??
> 
> Could anybody tell me why??

Because we lack behind.  Jeff Bailey worked on repackaging the latest
snapshot, but work was interrupted.  He might pick it up later.

Note that currently it is only used on the Hurd (a port [of the packaging
stuff] to Debian GNU/Linux is upcoming, and the main reason for the delay).

Thanks,
Marcus

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Re: [Q]: GNU inetutils and debian inetutils not in sync??

2001-09-24 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 07:20:23AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> GNU inetutils is a FSF implementation, ours is the original BSD.
> 
> The FSF is re-implementing long existing code so that they can GPL it.

Uh, this is dead wrong, at least in the case of inetutils.  The GNU inetutils
started out as a port of the BSD code to the GNU Hurd platform, and it was done
by Miles Bader.  In a desire to do the right thing, the code was actually
modified to be portable across many systems.  There are plans to do more with
the code (new features etc).

Of course the package is GPL'ed (just like sysklogd is GPL'ed, although it
is forked from the BSD code), but that is not the motivation.

Thanks,
Marcus

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Re: [Q]: GNU inetutils and debian inetutils not in sync??

2001-09-14 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 04:04:08PM +0200, Francis ANDRE uttered:
> I check out the www.gnu.org inetutils against debian inetutils and I found 
> them out of sync??
>
Found _what_ about them out of sync? Their version number? Their 3rd toe on
their root foot? _What?_

> Could anybody tell me why??
>
Did you check on packages.debian.org to see if the package exists, and what
versions (or whatever) the different suites have?

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RE: [Q]: GNU inetutils and debian inetutils not in sync??

2001-09-14 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 14-Sep-2001 Francis ANDRE wrote:
> Hi DDG
> 
> I check out the www.gnu.org inetutils against debian inetutils and I found
> them out of sync??
> 
> Could anybody tell me why??

GNU inetutils is a FSF implementation, ours is the original BSD.

The FSF is re-implementing long existing code so that they can GPL it.




Re: [Q]: GNU inetutils and debian inetutils not in sync??

2001-09-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Francis ANDRE wrote:
> Could anybody tell me why??

Ask the maintainer instead of mailing debian-devel?

Wichert.

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[Q]: GNU inetutils and debian inetutils not in sync??

2001-09-14 Thread Francis ANDRE



Hi DDG
 
I check out the www.gnu.org inetutils against debian inetutils and 
I found them out of sync??
 
Could anybody tell me why??
 
Cheers
 
Francis ANDRE