Re: And why DDTP does not use webwml? Re: Why DDTP? shouldn't it be DPTP? (was Re: spanish translations in DDTP now)

2002-12-06 Thread Lorenzo Cappelletti

- Original Message -
From: Michael Bramer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 19:34:06 +0100
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: And why DDTP does not use webwml? Re: Why DDTP? shouldn't it be 
DPTP? (was Re: spanish translations in DDTP now)


 On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 01:23:33PM +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
  
One question I have is why DDTP does not use webwml. This is now part
of the Debian project (as it's under ddtp.debian.org), but it's
completely incoherent with Debian www style, and it also is the part
of the Debian web with less translations!

Well, as DDTP's site developer, I must admin I didn't take into
consideration webwml when I started designing the site, just because I
think DDTP's site has its own requirements.  I liked WML concept, though.

I don't think that being part of a Debian sub-project implies using
webwml (see some projects at http://www.debian.org/devel/ like
Debian-Edu).  Nevertheless, I agree that what Debain users perceive is
not something homogeneous.

Is there any point regarding translator work, anyway?

PS: please, include me in you reply because I'm not subscribed to
debian-devel@lists.debian.org


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Re: And why DDTP does not use webwml? Re: Why DDTP? shouldn't it be DPTP? (was Re: spanish translations in DDTP now)

2002-12-06 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 01:31:40PM +0100, Lorenzo Cappelletti wrote:
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Bramer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 19:34:06 +0100
 To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: And why DDTP does not use webwml? Re: Why DDTP? shouldn't it be 
 DPTP? (was Re: spanish translations in DDTP now)
 
 
  On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 01:23:33PM +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
   
 One question I have is why DDTP does not use webwml. This is now part
 of the Debian project (as it's under ddtp.debian.org), but it's
 completely incoherent with Debian www style, and it also is the part
 of the Debian web with less translations!
 
 Well, as DDTP's site developer, I must admin I didn't take into
 consideration webwml when I started designing the site, just because I
 think DDTP's site has its own requirements.  I liked WML concept, though.
 
 I don't think that being part of a Debian sub-project implies using
 webwml (see some projects at http://www.debian.org/devel/ like
 Debian-Edu).  Nevertheless, I agree that what Debain users perceive is
 not something homogeneous.

  Anyway, Debian-Edu does use wiki, under wiki.debian.net. And wiki, as
  it's a different application has his own behaviour. Anyway, I'd like
  them to use also webwml at least for the front page and perhaps some
  of the more important things.
 
 Is there any point regarding translator work, anyway?
 
  Yes, using webwml your pages are automatically included in the web
  pages to be translated (http://www.debian.org/devel/website/stats/),
  and people will se pages in his own language (if available)


 Cheers 

-- 
  Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: And why DDTP does not use webwml? Re: Why DDTP? shouldn't it be DPTP? (was Re: spanish translations in DDTP now)

2002-12-06 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 01:23:33PM +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
   One question I have is why DDTP does not use webwml. This is now part
   of the Debian project (as it's under ddtp.debian.org), but it's
   completely incoherent with Debian www style, and it also is the part
   of the Debian web with less translations!

webwml works for the web pages, sure, but it's not the magical solution to
all of the problems. The Debian WWW style works, sure, but it's also not the
magical style every other of our web pages needs to religiously follow.

(What's this, the day when Spanish developers do spurious demands against
grisu? :) Whereas they could just go and beat him up for abusing
debian-devel-announce...)

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And why DDTP does not use webwml? Re: Why DDTP? shouldn't it be DPTP? (was Re: spanish translations in DDTP now)

2002-12-05 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo

  One question I have is why DDTP does not use webwml. This is now part
  of the Debian project (as it's under ddtp.debian.org), but it's
  completely incoherent with Debian www style, and it also is the part
  of the Debian web with less translations!

  
  I hope you have this also in your TODO.

  Cheers,
  
-- 
  Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: And why DDTP does not use webwml? Re: Why DDTP? shouldn't it be DPTP? (was Re: spanish translations in DDTP now)

2002-12-05 Thread Michael Bramer
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 01:23:33PM +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
 
   One question I have is why DDTP does not use webwml. This is now part
   of the Debian project (as it's under ddtp.debian.org), but it's
   completely incoherent with Debian www style, and it also is the part
   of the Debian web with less translations!
 
   
   I hope you have this also in your TODO.

no.

I don't like web pages and I don't make this all. 

I found some webmaster, and he make all the work with this web stuff.
Maybe _he_ will move to webwml and maybe he have this on his TODO list.
(I don't think so, btw.)

I cc: this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you (or others) have
questions about the web pages, ask the webmaster. 


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