Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-23 Thread Barak Pearlmutter
Inspired by your cute reboot/halt button hack, I added it plus a
little background color to my own xdm.  Everyone here is pretty happy
with the result.

--BAP.

Added to the bottom of /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0

  # reboot button
  /usr/bin/wish EOF 
  wm geometry . +0-0
  button .halt   -text Halt   -command {exec shutdown -h now}
  button .reboot -text Reboot -command {exec shutdown -r now}
  pack .halt .reboot -side left
  EOF
  echo $!  /var/run/xdmbutton_0.pid
  
  # background
  /usr/bin/X11/xlock -inroot -delay 5 -mode bouboule 
  echo $!  /var/run/xdmlock_0.pid

Added to the bottom of /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup_0

  # reboot button
  if test -r /var/run/xdmbutton_0.pid; then
kill `cat /var/run/xdmbutton_0.pid`
rm /var/run/xdmbutton_0.pid
  fi
  
  # background
  if test -r /var/run/xdmlock_0.pid; then
kill `cat /var/run/xdmlock_0.pid`
rm  /var/run/xdmlock_0.pid
  fi


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Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-23 Thread Paul Reavis
 Subject: Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?
 Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:21:52 -0600 (MDT)
 From: Barak Pearlmutter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: David A. van Leeuwen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

 Inspired by your cute reboot/halt button hack, I added it plus a
 little background color to my own xdm.  Everyone here is pretty happy
 with the result.

 --BAP.


That's cool. I hacked my xdm to move the login window to the top left-hand
corner, set the background black, and run xlock with a pretty anim in
the background. You have to kill it when folks log in. Here's da code
(apologies for volume):


--

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Design Lead
Partner Software, Inc.http://www.partnersoft.com


! $XConsortium: Xresources,v 1.7 93/09/28 14:30:29 gildea Exp $
xlogin*login.translations: #override\
CtrlKeyR: abort-display()\n\
KeyF1: set-session-argument(failsafe) finish-field()\n\
CtrlKeyReturn: set-session-argument(failsafe) finish-field()\n\
KeyReturn: set-session-argument() finish-field()
xlogin*borderWidth: 3
xlogin.Login.width: 400
xlogin.Login.height: 200
xlogin.Login.x: 0
xlogin.Login.y: 0
xlogin*greeting: I am CLIENTHOST
xlogin*namePrompt: what is your name:\ 
xlogin*passwdPrompt: what is your quest:\ 
xlogin*fail: Hey, no way, man...
#ifdef COLOR
xlogin*greetColor: orange
xlogin*failColor: red
*Foreground: orange
*Background: black
#else
xlogin*Foreground: black
xlogin*Background: white
#endif

XConsole.text.geometry: 480x130
XConsole.verbose:   true
XConsole*iconic:true
XConsole*font:  fixed

Chooser*geometry:   750x550+200+100
Chooser*allowShellResize:   false
Chooser*viewport.forceBars: true
Chooser*label.font: *-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal-*-240-*
Chooser*label.label:XDMCP Host Menu  from CLIENTHOST
Chooser*list.font:  -*-*-medium-r-normal-*-*-230-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1
Chooser*Command.font:   *-new century schoolbook-bold-r-normal-*-180-*


#!/bin/sh
# $XConsortium: Xsetup_0,v 1.3 93/09/28 14:30:31 gildea Exp $

#if grep -q ^run-xconsole /etc/X11/config
#then
#  xconsole -geometry 480x130-0-0 -daemon -notify -verbose -fn fixed \
#-exitOnFail -file /dev/xconsole
#fi

if [ -x /usr/bin/X11/xsetroot ] ; then
  /usr/bin/X11/xsetroot -solid black
fi

if [ -x /usr/bin/X11/xlock ] ; then
  /usr/bin/X11/xlock -nolock -inroot -mode bouboule 
  echo $!  /var/run/LoginPretty.pid
fi
exit 0
#! /bin/sh
#
# This script is run as root after a user starts a session on :0.

# Call the global Xstartup script, if it exists
if [ -x /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup ] ; then
  /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup
fi

# :0 specific startup commands go here
start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --pidfile /var/run/LoginPretty.pid

exit 0



Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-18 Thread Austin Donnelly
Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Previously Brian Mays wrote:
  There is an easy way to get this button on your screen, assuming that you
  have the TCL/TK packages installed.
 
 I've done the same thing (using Motif), but added a confirmation check..
 I've found that when I move the mouse or press a mousebutton when the
 screen is in powersaving can have very disconcerting effects with a
 reset-button out there..

I did something similar for my ancient Slackware 1.2 box.

My solution was a trivial Xt button called XShutdown.  It includes a
confirmation stage, and calls shutdown itself (sorting out a console
for it's output while it's at it).

It should be check it works with ELF, latest X libraries, the current
sysvinit, but I don't anticipate any probplems.

Austin

/* Copyright (c) Austin Donnelly 1995-1998
 *   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *
 * This software is released under the GPL.   It comes with NO WARRANTY.
 *
 * xshutdown.c
 *
 */

#include stdio.h
#include stdlib.h
#include unistd.h
#include sys/types.h
#include fcntl.h
#include errno.h
#include string.h

#include X11/Intrinsic.h
#include X11/StringDefs.h
#include X11/Shell.h
#include X11/Xaw/Command.h
#include X11/Xaw/Box.h
#include X11/Xaw/Dialog.h

/* globals */
char *progname;
Widget pshell, topLev;

/* prototypes */
void Shutdown_btn(Widget, XtPointer, XtPointer);
void Ok_btn(Widget, XtPointer, XtPointer);
void Cancel_btn(Widget, XtPointer, XtPointer);
void start_shutdown(void);
void popdown(Widget);
void die(const char *);

int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
  XtAppContext app;
  Widget box, shutdown, dialog, ok, cancel;

  /* make the widget hierarchy */
  topLev = XtVaAppInitialize(app,
  XShutdown,
  NULL, 0, /* no cmd line options */
  argc, argv,
  NULL,/* app-defaults */
  NULL);   /* end of args */
  box = XtVaCreateManagedWidget(
box, /* name */
boxWidgetClass,
topLev, /* parent */
NULL);

  shutdown = XtVaCreateManagedWidget(
 Shutdown,
 commandWidgetClass,
 box,
 NULL);

  /* now make the popup hierarchy */
  pshell = XtVaCreatePopupShell(pshell,
transientShellWidgetClass,
topLev,
NULL);
  dialog = XtVaCreateManagedWidget(
   dialog,
   dialogWidgetClass,
   pshell,
   NULL);
  ok = XtVaCreateManagedWidget(
   ok,
   commandWidgetClass,
   dialog,
   NULL);
  cancel = XtVaCreateManagedWidget(
   cancel,
   commandWidgetClass,
   dialog,
   NULL);

  /* callbacks */
  XtAddCallback(shutdown, XtNcallback, Shutdown_btn, 0);
  XtAddCallback(ok, XtNcallback, Ok_btn, shutdown);
  XtAddCallback(cancel, XtNcallback, Cancel_btn, shutdown);

  /* customisation */
  XtVaSetValues(dialog,
XtNlabel, Really shutdown?,
NULL);

  progname = argv[0];

  /* main code */
  if (argc!=1)
{
  printf(Usage: %s\n, progname);
  printf(\tRun as root, when button clicked, does a shutdown(8)\n);
  exit(1);
}

  /* draw the things */
  XtRealizeWidget(topLev);

  XtAppMainLoop(app);
  return 0;
}


void Shutdown_btn(Widget shutdown, XtPointer client_data, XtPointer call_data)
{
  Position x, y;
  Dimension width, height;
  
  /* configure bits n bobs */
  XtVaGetValues(topLev,
XtNwidth, width,
XtNheight, height,
NULL);
  XtTranslateCoords(topLev,
(Position) width / 2,
(Position) height + 10,
x, y);
  XtVaSetValues(pshell,
XtNx, x,
XtNy, y,
NULL);
  XtSetSensitive(shutdown, FALSE);

  /* show popup */
  XtPopup(pshell, XtGrabNonexclusive);
}


void Ok_btn(Widget w, XtPointer client_data, XtPointer call_data)
{
  popdown((Widget) client_data); /* popdown  resensitize shutdown */
  start_shutdown();  /* fork off shutdown(8) */
}

void Cancel_btn(Widget w, XtPointer client_data, XtPointer call_data)
{
  popdown((Widget) client_data); /* popdown  resensitize shutdown */
}


void popdown(Widget show)
{
  XtPopdown(pshell);
  XtSetSensitive(show, TRUE);
}

/* this code is enough to safely shutdown the machine */
void start_shutdown(void)
{
  pid_t pid;
  int infd, 

Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-17 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi.

Brian Mays wrote :
 This will pop up two buttons in the lower left corner of your screen.  The
 Halt button will shut down your system, while the Reboot button will
 reboot (useful if you also have Windows 95 *yuck* on your computer).

So, going back to the initial message about a cool XDM login screen for Debian, 
we could provide, nearly without effort, it.
We just need a jpg file to put in background using display from imagemagick, 
perhaps more, following screen size; a little tcl/tk script to show 
restart/halt buttons; and that's all.
So, I'm waiting your ideas about the jpg file (I think about something like the 
top of the debian web page + some cool stuff made with the gimp), and I will 
try to mix them and make a great login screen. Scripts are also welcome since 
my knowledge of tcl/tk isn't high.

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Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-16 Thread Joey Hess
David Welton wrote:
 With all due respect, this seems more like a matter of local
 configuration on your part rather than what the standard for Debian
 should be.  If we have decided that we want ctrl-alt-del to take the
 system down, then it should do it consistantly.

My point is that since it doesn't currently do that, changing it will
confuse people and possibly lead to bad results.

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Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-16 Thread Joey Hess
Raul Miller wrote:
  I've several times been very glad ctrl-alt-del did not work in X. You see,
  my main server is often in X, another computer here isn't, and I typically
  get the keyboards confused and breath a huge sigh of relief when I realize X
  ignored the ctrl-alt-del.
 
 That can be configured by people who need it.  
 
 To turn off ctrl-alt-del for non-x you edit /etc/inittab

I don't think you understood what I said. I want ctrl-alt-del for non-X, but
adding it for X will cause problems.
 
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Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-16 Thread Brian Mays
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David A. van Leeuwen) wrote:

 I'd opt for a `shutdown' button on the XDM login screen.

 Right now there isn't a simple way of bringing the machine down---as
 far as i know.  Even ctrl-alt-del doesn't work in XFree86.

 Of course, care should be taken that this can be done only from the
 console---if necessary, only after typing a shutdown password.

There is an easy way to get this button on your screen, assuming that you
have the TCL/TK packages installed.

Add the following seven lines to /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0:

/usr/bin/wish EOF 
wm geometry . +0-0
button .halt   -text Halt   -command {exec shutdown -h now}
button .reboot -text Reboot -command {exec shutdown -r now}
pack .halt .reboot -side left
EOF
echo $!  /var/run/xdmbutton.pid

and add the following line to /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup_0:

if test -r /var/run/xdmbutton.pid; then kill `cat /var/run/xdmbutton.pid`; fi

This will pop up two buttons in the lower left corner of your screen.  The
Halt button will shut down your system, while the Reboot button will
reboot (useful if you also have Windows 95 *yuck* on your computer).

In my opinion, this is much more useful than Ctrl-Alt-Delete.

Brian


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Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Brian Mays wrote:
 There is an easy way to get this button on your screen, assuming that you
 have the TCL/TK packages installed.

I've done the same thing (using Motif), but added a confirmation check..
I've found that when I move the mouse or press a mousebutton when the
screen is in powersaving can have very disconcerting effects with a
reset-button out there..

Wichert.

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Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-15 Thread David A. van Leeuwen
Branden Robinson wrote:
 
 Wanted:
 
 Someone to follow the lead set at http://tr.ml.org/~tom/software/xdm/
 and create a Debian XDM login screen featuring Mr. Blue-Eye or something.

I'd opt for a `shutdown' button on the XDM login screen. 

Right now there isn't a simple way of bringing the machine down---as far
as i know.
Even ctrl-alt-del doesn't work in XFree86. 

Of course, care should be taken that this can be done only from the
console---if necessary, only after typing a shutdown
password. 

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Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-15 Thread Raul Miller
David A. van Leeuwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Even ctrl-alt-del doesn't work in XFree86. 

ctrl-alt-del should be made to work.

-- 
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Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-15 Thread Joey Hess
Raul Miller wrote:
 David A. van Leeuwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Even ctrl-alt-del doesn't work in XFree86. 
 
 ctrl-alt-del should be made to work.

Um, please, NO!

I've several times been very glad ctrl-alt-del did not work in X. You see,
my main server is often in X, another computer here isn't, and I typically
get the keyboards confused and breath a huge sigh of relief when I realize X
ignored the ctrl-alt-del.

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Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-15 Thread David Welton
On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 03:02:32PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
 Raul Miller wrote:
  David A. van Leeuwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Even ctrl-alt-del doesn't work in XFree86. 
  
  ctrl-alt-del should be made to work.
 
 Um, please, NO!
 
 I've several times been very glad ctrl-alt-del did not work in X. You see,
 my main server is often in X, another computer here isn't, and I typically
 get the keyboards confused and breath a huge sigh of relief when I realize X
 ignored the ctrl-alt-del.

With all due respect, this seems more like a matter of local
configuration on your part rather than what the standard for Debian
should be.  If we have decided that we want ctrl-alt-del to take the
system down, then it should do it consistantly.

Speaking of systems going down, anyone heard more than what is on
Bugtraq about the supposed modified syndrop thing?

Ciao,
-- 
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Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-15 Thread Raul Miller
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Raul Miller wrote:
  David A. van Leeuwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Even ctrl-alt-del doesn't work in XFree86. 
  
  ctrl-alt-del should be made to work.
 
 Um, please, NO!
 
 I've several times been very glad ctrl-alt-del did not work in X. You see,
 my main server is often in X, another computer here isn't, and I typically
 get the keyboards confused and breath a huge sigh of relief when I realize X
 ignored the ctrl-alt-del.

That can be configured by people who need it.  

To turn off ctrl-alt-del for non-x you edit /etc/inittab

In principle, it would be nice if X could just relay the information
to init (that the key combo is being pressed). In practice, it might
be acceptable to just put a comment into /etc/inittab (and the
app-defaults) pointing to the other location(s).

-- 
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Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Branden Robinson wrote:
 Isn't that what I just suggested?

Uhh... 
(scratching head aimlessly)
I must be getting blind.. You're right of course. It's just that I didn't
notice the name of the program in your mail, just the URL.

Wichert.

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Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-14 Thread Ben Gertzfield
 Branden == Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Branden One presumes that will stop very soon now.  Both GTK+ and
Branden the GIMP are very, very close to a 1.0 release.  For the
Branden GTK+, one can assume that the library interface will be
Branden stable for a while.

GTK+ is unofficially at 1.0 now. I'm building a prerelease of 1.0
as we speak.

Relying on GTK+ for lots of apps for Debian 2.1 would be fine by me,
as the rapid development phase is over, and GTK+ 1.1 has already been
forked, following the Linux kernel/Perl/GNUS developmental model.

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Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, 13 Apr 1998, Frederic Peters wrote:

 background where you type your login/password have to be in
 only one color, no pixmap. Except that fact, I think a login
 screen with only xdm (+xloadimage) can be really cool.  I am ok
 to make a great login screen. For graphics, I am not the man.
 Why not call for graphics from the web site like when we were
 looking for a logo ?  That's all. 

you may want to take a look at login.app, that just uploaded.

Marcelo


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Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-13 Thread Steve Dunham
Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Mon, 13 Apr 1998, Frederic Peters wrote:
 
  background where you type your login/password have to be in
  only one color, no pixmap. Except that fact, I think a login
  screen with only xdm (+xloadimage) can be really cool.  I am ok
  to make a great login screen. For graphics, I am not the man.
  Why not call for graphics from the web site like when we were
  looking for a logo ?  That's all. 

 you may want to take a look at login.app, that just uploaded.

login.app is not an xdm replacement.  xdm handles remote sessions too.
I would really be disappointed to see Debian using Login.app instead
of xdm.

Some choices here are:

 1) A modified version of xdm-external+gtkgreet (from the web site
mentioned earlier in this thread.

 2) Some (tasteful) X banner stuff in the background of a normal xdm
screen.

They both would be easy, but with the first option I would be
concerned by the rapidly changing state of the gtk libraries.  (Red
Hat is basing some gui apps on gtk, so users are unable to install
newer versions of the gtk libraries without breaking these apps.)

If the second option is chosen, the designer should make sure that the
it works on 640x480 screens.  (Some people still use 640x480
laptop computers - this causes problems with some software, including
the electronic eyes About box.)


Steve
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Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 02:09:43AM -0400, Steve Dunham wrote:
 Some choices here are:
 
  1) A modified version of xdm-external+gtkgreet (from the web site
 mentioned earlier in this thread.
[...]
 They both would be easy, but with the first option I would be
 concerned by the rapidly changing state of the gtk libraries.  (Red
 Hat is basing some gui apps on gtk, so users are unable to install
 newer versions of the gtk libraries without breaking these apps.)

One presumes that will stop very soon now.  Both GTK+ and the GIMP are
very, very close to a 1.0 release.  For the GTK+, one can assume that the
library interface will be stable for a while.

Like I said, this is probably a 2.1 thing.

2.1 should be one hell of a release.  I should (knock wood) have a lot of X
issues ironed out by then; we'll have APT; we'll be moved to FHS; Mozilla,
GTK+, GIMP, and GNOME will have been hacked on enough to make outsiders
drool just by looking at them; etc.  Who knows, kernel 2.2 may even be out
by then.  Quite a bit of change for a minor version increment.

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Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-13 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 01:44:22AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:

 One presumes that will stop very soon now.  Both GTK+ and the GIMP are
 very, very close to a 1.0 release.  For the GTK+, one can assume that the
 library interface will be stable for a while.
 
 Like I said, this is probably a 2.1 thing.
 
 2.1 should be one hell of a release.  I should (knock wood) have a lot of X
 issues ironed out by then; we'll have APT; we'll be moved to FHS; Mozilla,
 GTK+, GIMP, and GNOME will have been hacked on enough to make outsiders
 drool just by looking at them; etc.  Who knows, kernel 2.2 may even be out
 by then.  Quite a bit of change for a minor version increment.

Perhaps then 2.1 will not in fact be 2.1 but rather 3.0?  If it's that
much of an improvement and kernel 2.2.x is actually stable..  g


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Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-13 Thread Raul Miller
Steve Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 They both would be easy, but with the first option I would be
 concerned by the rapidly changing state of the gtk libraries.  (Red
 Hat is basing some gui apps on gtk, so users are unable to install
 newer versions of the gtk libraries without breaking these apps.)

Of course, this is a problem which could be solved first by static
linking, and later by carefully bumping the major version number
whenever needed.

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Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Branden Robinson wrote:
 Someone to follow the lead set at http://tr.ml.org/~tom/software/xdm/
 and create a Debian XDM login screen featuring Mr. Blue-Eye or something.

Perhaps we could use XDM-External for this? It allows you to use another
program instead of the default login widget. See the homepage for more info:
http://tr.ml.org/~tom/software/xdm/ 

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Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 01:40:57PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
 Previously Branden Robinson wrote:
  Someone to follow the lead set at http://tr.ml.org/~tom/software/xdm/
  and create a Debian XDM login screen featuring Mr. Blue-Eye or something.
 
 Perhaps we could use XDM-External for this? It allows you to use another
 program instead of the default login widget. See the homepage for more info:
 http://tr.ml.org/~tom/software/xdm/ 

scratches head in confusion

Isn't that what I just suggested?

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Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-12 Thread Branden Robinson
Wanted:

Someone to follow the lead set at http://tr.ml.org/~tom/software/xdm/
and create a Debian XDM login screen featuring Mr. Blue-Eye or something.

This would be great to have for 2.0, but that's probably not realistic, so
it would probably go in 2.1.

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Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-12 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi.

 Wanted:
 Someone to follow the lead set at http://tr.ml.org/~tom/software/xdm/
 and create a Debian XDM login screen featuring Mr. Blue-Eye or something.
 
 This would be great to have for 2.0, but that's probably not realistic, so
 it would probably go in 2.1.

I just go to this url and I think we could make a pretty login screen without 
that. The only problem (?) with xdm is that the background where you type your 
login/password have to be in only one color, no pixmap. Except that fact, I 
think a login screen with only xdm (+xloadimage) can be really cool.
I am ok to make a great login screen. For graphics, I am not the man. Why not 
call for graphics from the web site like when we were looking for a logo ?
That's all.

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