Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?
Inspired by your cute reboot/halt button hack, I added it plus a little background color to my own xdm. Everyone here is pretty happy with the result. --BAP. Added to the bottom of /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 # reboot button /usr/bin/wish EOF wm geometry . +0-0 button .halt -text Halt -command {exec shutdown -h now} button .reboot -text Reboot -command {exec shutdown -r now} pack .halt .reboot -side left EOF echo $! /var/run/xdmbutton_0.pid # background /usr/bin/X11/xlock -inroot -delay 5 -mode bouboule echo $! /var/run/xdmlock_0.pid Added to the bottom of /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup_0 # reboot button if test -r /var/run/xdmbutton_0.pid; then kill `cat /var/run/xdmbutton_0.pid` rm /var/run/xdmbutton_0.pid fi # background if test -r /var/run/xdmlock_0.pid; then kill `cat /var/run/xdmlock_0.pid` rm /var/run/xdmlock_0.pid fi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen? Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:21:52 -0600 (MDT) From: Barak Pearlmutter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David A. van Leeuwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Inspired by your cute reboot/halt button hack, I added it plus a little background color to my own xdm. Everyone here is pretty happy with the result. --BAP. That's cool. I hacked my xdm to move the login window to the top left-hand corner, set the background black, and run xlock with a pretty anim in the background. You have to kill it when folks log in. Here's da code (apologies for volume): -- Paul Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design Lead Partner Software, Inc.http://www.partnersoft.com ! $XConsortium: Xresources,v 1.7 93/09/28 14:30:29 gildea Exp $ xlogin*login.translations: #override\ CtrlKeyR: abort-display()\n\ KeyF1: set-session-argument(failsafe) finish-field()\n\ CtrlKeyReturn: set-session-argument(failsafe) finish-field()\n\ KeyReturn: set-session-argument() finish-field() xlogin*borderWidth: 3 xlogin.Login.width: 400 xlogin.Login.height: 200 xlogin.Login.x: 0 xlogin.Login.y: 0 xlogin*greeting: I am CLIENTHOST xlogin*namePrompt: what is your name:\ xlogin*passwdPrompt: what is your quest:\ xlogin*fail: Hey, no way, man... #ifdef COLOR xlogin*greetColor: orange xlogin*failColor: red *Foreground: orange *Background: black #else xlogin*Foreground: black xlogin*Background: white #endif XConsole.text.geometry: 480x130 XConsole.verbose: true XConsole*iconic:true XConsole*font: fixed Chooser*geometry: 750x550+200+100 Chooser*allowShellResize: false Chooser*viewport.forceBars: true Chooser*label.font: *-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal-*-240-* Chooser*label.label:XDMCP Host Menu from CLIENTHOST Chooser*list.font: -*-*-medium-r-normal-*-*-230-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1 Chooser*Command.font: *-new century schoolbook-bold-r-normal-*-180-* #!/bin/sh # $XConsortium: Xsetup_0,v 1.3 93/09/28 14:30:31 gildea Exp $ #if grep -q ^run-xconsole /etc/X11/config #then # xconsole -geometry 480x130-0-0 -daemon -notify -verbose -fn fixed \ #-exitOnFail -file /dev/xconsole #fi if [ -x /usr/bin/X11/xsetroot ] ; then /usr/bin/X11/xsetroot -solid black fi if [ -x /usr/bin/X11/xlock ] ; then /usr/bin/X11/xlock -nolock -inroot -mode bouboule echo $! /var/run/LoginPretty.pid fi exit 0 #! /bin/sh # # This script is run as root after a user starts a session on :0. # Call the global Xstartup script, if it exists if [ -x /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup ] ; then /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup fi # :0 specific startup commands go here start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --pidfile /var/run/LoginPretty.pid exit 0
Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?
Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Previously Brian Mays wrote: There is an easy way to get this button on your screen, assuming that you have the TCL/TK packages installed. I've done the same thing (using Motif), but added a confirmation check.. I've found that when I move the mouse or press a mousebutton when the screen is in powersaving can have very disconcerting effects with a reset-button out there.. I did something similar for my ancient Slackware 1.2 box. My solution was a trivial Xt button called XShutdown. It includes a confirmation stage, and calls shutdown itself (sorting out a console for it's output while it's at it). It should be check it works with ELF, latest X libraries, the current sysvinit, but I don't anticipate any probplems. Austin /* Copyright (c) Austin Donnelly 1995-1998 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * This software is released under the GPL. It comes with NO WARRANTY. * * xshutdown.c * */ #include stdio.h #include stdlib.h #include unistd.h #include sys/types.h #include fcntl.h #include errno.h #include string.h #include X11/Intrinsic.h #include X11/StringDefs.h #include X11/Shell.h #include X11/Xaw/Command.h #include X11/Xaw/Box.h #include X11/Xaw/Dialog.h /* globals */ char *progname; Widget pshell, topLev; /* prototypes */ void Shutdown_btn(Widget, XtPointer, XtPointer); void Ok_btn(Widget, XtPointer, XtPointer); void Cancel_btn(Widget, XtPointer, XtPointer); void start_shutdown(void); void popdown(Widget); void die(const char *); int main(int argc, char **argv) { XtAppContext app; Widget box, shutdown, dialog, ok, cancel; /* make the widget hierarchy */ topLev = XtVaAppInitialize(app, XShutdown, NULL, 0, /* no cmd line options */ argc, argv, NULL,/* app-defaults */ NULL); /* end of args */ box = XtVaCreateManagedWidget( box, /* name */ boxWidgetClass, topLev, /* parent */ NULL); shutdown = XtVaCreateManagedWidget( Shutdown, commandWidgetClass, box, NULL); /* now make the popup hierarchy */ pshell = XtVaCreatePopupShell(pshell, transientShellWidgetClass, topLev, NULL); dialog = XtVaCreateManagedWidget( dialog, dialogWidgetClass, pshell, NULL); ok = XtVaCreateManagedWidget( ok, commandWidgetClass, dialog, NULL); cancel = XtVaCreateManagedWidget( cancel, commandWidgetClass, dialog, NULL); /* callbacks */ XtAddCallback(shutdown, XtNcallback, Shutdown_btn, 0); XtAddCallback(ok, XtNcallback, Ok_btn, shutdown); XtAddCallback(cancel, XtNcallback, Cancel_btn, shutdown); /* customisation */ XtVaSetValues(dialog, XtNlabel, Really shutdown?, NULL); progname = argv[0]; /* main code */ if (argc!=1) { printf(Usage: %s\n, progname); printf(\tRun as root, when button clicked, does a shutdown(8)\n); exit(1); } /* draw the things */ XtRealizeWidget(topLev); XtAppMainLoop(app); return 0; } void Shutdown_btn(Widget shutdown, XtPointer client_data, XtPointer call_data) { Position x, y; Dimension width, height; /* configure bits n bobs */ XtVaGetValues(topLev, XtNwidth, width, XtNheight, height, NULL); XtTranslateCoords(topLev, (Position) width / 2, (Position) height + 10, x, y); XtVaSetValues(pshell, XtNx, x, XtNy, y, NULL); XtSetSensitive(shutdown, FALSE); /* show popup */ XtPopup(pshell, XtGrabNonexclusive); } void Ok_btn(Widget w, XtPointer client_data, XtPointer call_data) { popdown((Widget) client_data); /* popdown resensitize shutdown */ start_shutdown(); /* fork off shutdown(8) */ } void Cancel_btn(Widget w, XtPointer client_data, XtPointer call_data) { popdown((Widget) client_data); /* popdown resensitize shutdown */ } void popdown(Widget show) { XtPopdown(pshell); XtSetSensitive(show, TRUE); } /* this code is enough to safely shutdown the machine */ void start_shutdown(void) { pid_t pid; int infd,
Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?
Hi. Brian Mays wrote : This will pop up two buttons in the lower left corner of your screen. The Halt button will shut down your system, while the Reboot button will reboot (useful if you also have Windows 95 *yuck* on your computer). So, going back to the initial message about a cool XDM login screen for Debian, we could provide, nearly without effort, it. We just need a jpg file to put in background using display from imagemagick, perhaps more, following screen size; a little tcl/tk script to show restart/halt buttons; and that's all. So, I'm waiting your ideas about the jpg file (I think about something like the top of the debian web page + some cool stuff made with the gimp), and I will try to mix them and make a great login screen. Scripts are also welcome since my knowledge of tcl/tk isn't high. -- Frederic Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Two major products from Berkeley : LSD and Unix. Coincidence ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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David Welton wrote: With all due respect, this seems more like a matter of local configuration on your part rather than what the standard for Debian should be. If we have decided that we want ctrl-alt-del to take the system down, then it should do it consistantly. My point is that since it doesn't currently do that, changing it will confuse people and possibly lead to bad results. -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Raul Miller wrote: I've several times been very glad ctrl-alt-del did not work in X. You see, my main server is often in X, another computer here isn't, and I typically get the keyboards confused and breath a huge sigh of relief when I realize X ignored the ctrl-alt-del. That can be configured by people who need it. To turn off ctrl-alt-del for non-x you edit /etc/inittab I don't think you understood what I said. I want ctrl-alt-del for non-X, but adding it for X will cause problems. -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David A. van Leeuwen) wrote: I'd opt for a `shutdown' button on the XDM login screen. Right now there isn't a simple way of bringing the machine down---as far as i know. Even ctrl-alt-del doesn't work in XFree86. Of course, care should be taken that this can be done only from the console---if necessary, only after typing a shutdown password. There is an easy way to get this button on your screen, assuming that you have the TCL/TK packages installed. Add the following seven lines to /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0: /usr/bin/wish EOF wm geometry . +0-0 button .halt -text Halt -command {exec shutdown -h now} button .reboot -text Reboot -command {exec shutdown -r now} pack .halt .reboot -side left EOF echo $! /var/run/xdmbutton.pid and add the following line to /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup_0: if test -r /var/run/xdmbutton.pid; then kill `cat /var/run/xdmbutton.pid`; fi This will pop up two buttons in the lower left corner of your screen. The Halt button will shut down your system, while the Reboot button will reboot (useful if you also have Windows 95 *yuck* on your computer). In my opinion, this is much more useful than Ctrl-Alt-Delete. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Previously Brian Mays wrote: There is an easy way to get this button on your screen, assuming that you have the TCL/TK packages installed. I've done the same thing (using Motif), but added a confirmation check.. I've found that when I move the mouse or press a mousebutton when the screen is in powersaving can have very disconcerting effects with a reset-button out there.. Wichert. -- == This combination of bytes forms a message written to you by Wichert Akkerman. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~wichert/ pgpE2wNkgh8hQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?
Branden Robinson wrote: Wanted: Someone to follow the lead set at http://tr.ml.org/~tom/software/xdm/ and create a Debian XDM login screen featuring Mr. Blue-Eye or something. I'd opt for a `shutdown' button on the XDM login screen. Right now there isn't a simple way of bringing the machine down---as far as i know. Even ctrl-alt-del doesn't work in XFree86. Of course, care should be taken that this can be done only from the console---if necessary, only after typing a shutdown password. -- David A. van Leeuwen[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://davl.op.het.net Echt stijlvol sterven doe je / bij een ander op de mat Op de dag dat je bezorgd wordt / door het NRC Handelsblad ---Joop Visser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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David A. van Leeuwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even ctrl-alt-del doesn't work in XFree86. ctrl-alt-del should be made to work. -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Raul Miller wrote: David A. van Leeuwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even ctrl-alt-del doesn't work in XFree86. ctrl-alt-del should be made to work. Um, please, NO! I've several times been very glad ctrl-alt-del did not work in X. You see, my main server is often in X, another computer here isn't, and I typically get the keyboards confused and breath a huge sigh of relief when I realize X ignored the ctrl-alt-del. -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 03:02:32PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: Raul Miller wrote: David A. van Leeuwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even ctrl-alt-del doesn't work in XFree86. ctrl-alt-del should be made to work. Um, please, NO! I've several times been very glad ctrl-alt-del did not work in X. You see, my main server is often in X, another computer here isn't, and I typically get the keyboards confused and breath a huge sigh of relief when I realize X ignored the ctrl-alt-del. With all due respect, this seems more like a matter of local configuration on your part rather than what the standard for Debian should be. If we have decided that we want ctrl-alt-del to take the system down, then it should do it consistantly. Speaking of systems going down, anyone heard more than what is on Bugtraq about the supposed modified syndrop thing? Ciao, -- David Welton http://www.efn.org/~davidw Debian GNU/Linux - www.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raul Miller wrote: David A. van Leeuwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even ctrl-alt-del doesn't work in XFree86. ctrl-alt-del should be made to work. Um, please, NO! I've several times been very glad ctrl-alt-del did not work in X. You see, my main server is often in X, another computer here isn't, and I typically get the keyboards confused and breath a huge sigh of relief when I realize X ignored the ctrl-alt-del. That can be configured by people who need it. To turn off ctrl-alt-del for non-x you edit /etc/inittab In principle, it would be nice if X could just relay the information to init (that the key combo is being pressed). In practice, it might be acceptable to just put a comment into /etc/inittab (and the app-defaults) pointing to the other location(s). -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Previously Branden Robinson wrote: Isn't that what I just suggested? Uhh... (scratching head aimlessly) I must be getting blind.. You're right of course. It's just that I didn't notice the name of the program in your mail, just the URL. Wichert. -- == This combination of bytes forms a message written to you by Wichert Akkerman. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~wichert/ pgpdS5mjXFGpJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Branden == Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Branden One presumes that will stop very soon now. Both GTK+ and Branden the GIMP are very, very close to a 1.0 release. For the Branden GTK+, one can assume that the library interface will be Branden stable for a while. GTK+ is unofficially at 1.0 now. I'm building a prerelease of 1.0 as we speak. Relying on GTK+ for lots of apps for Debian 2.1 would be fine by me, as the rapid development phase is over, and GTK+ 1.1 has already been forked, following the Linux kernel/Perl/GNUS developmental model. -- Brought to you by the letters Q and M and the number 5. If it wasn't for disappointment, I wouldn't have any appointment. -- TMBG Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, 13 Apr 1998, Frederic Peters wrote: background where you type your login/password have to be in only one color, no pixmap. Except that fact, I think a login screen with only xdm (+xloadimage) can be really cool. I am ok to make a great login screen. For graphics, I am not the man. Why not call for graphics from the web site like when we were looking for a logo ? That's all. you may want to take a look at login.app, that just uploaded. Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 13 Apr 1998, Frederic Peters wrote: background where you type your login/password have to be in only one color, no pixmap. Except that fact, I think a login screen with only xdm (+xloadimage) can be really cool. I am ok to make a great login screen. For graphics, I am not the man. Why not call for graphics from the web site like when we were looking for a logo ? That's all. you may want to take a look at login.app, that just uploaded. login.app is not an xdm replacement. xdm handles remote sessions too. I would really be disappointed to see Debian using Login.app instead of xdm. Some choices here are: 1) A modified version of xdm-external+gtkgreet (from the web site mentioned earlier in this thread. 2) Some (tasteful) X banner stuff in the background of a normal xdm screen. They both would be easy, but with the first option I would be concerned by the rapidly changing state of the gtk libraries. (Red Hat is basing some gui apps on gtk, so users are unable to install newer versions of the gtk libraries without breaking these apps.) If the second option is chosen, the designer should make sure that the it works on 640x480 screens. (Some people still use 640x480 laptop computers - this causes problems with some software, including the electronic eyes About box.) Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 02:09:43AM -0400, Steve Dunham wrote: Some choices here are: 1) A modified version of xdm-external+gtkgreet (from the web site mentioned earlier in this thread. [...] They both would be easy, but with the first option I would be concerned by the rapidly changing state of the gtk libraries. (Red Hat is basing some gui apps on gtk, so users are unable to install newer versions of the gtk libraries without breaking these apps.) One presumes that will stop very soon now. Both GTK+ and the GIMP are very, very close to a 1.0 release. For the GTK+, one can assume that the library interface will be stable for a while. Like I said, this is probably a 2.1 thing. 2.1 should be one hell of a release. I should (knock wood) have a lot of X issues ironed out by then; we'll have APT; we'll be moved to FHS; Mozilla, GTK+, GIMP, and GNOME will have been hacked on enough to make outsiders drool just by looking at them; etc. Who knows, kernel 2.2 may even be out by then. Quite a bit of change for a minor version increment. -- G. Branden Robinson | Kissing girls is a goodness. It is a Purdue University | growing closer. It beats the hell out [EMAIL PROTECTED] | of card games. http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | -- Robert Heinlein pgpZKl6vehwU2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?
On Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 01:44:22AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: One presumes that will stop very soon now. Both GTK+ and the GIMP are very, very close to a 1.0 release. For the GTK+, one can assume that the library interface will be stable for a while. Like I said, this is probably a 2.1 thing. 2.1 should be one hell of a release. I should (knock wood) have a lot of X issues ironed out by then; we'll have APT; we'll be moved to FHS; Mozilla, GTK+, GIMP, and GNOME will have been hacked on enough to make outsiders drool just by looking at them; etc. Who knows, kernel 2.2 may even be out by then. Quite a bit of change for a minor version increment. Perhaps then 2.1 will not in fact be 2.1 but rather 3.0? If it's that much of an improvement and kernel 2.2.x is actually stable.. g pgpn4WGXwWzay.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?
Steve Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They both would be easy, but with the first option I would be concerned by the rapidly changing state of the gtk libraries. (Red Hat is basing some gui apps on gtk, so users are unable to install newer versions of the gtk libraries without breaking these apps.) Of course, this is a problem which could be solved first by static linking, and later by carefully bumping the major version number whenever needed. -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Previously Branden Robinson wrote: Someone to follow the lead set at http://tr.ml.org/~tom/software/xdm/ and create a Debian XDM login screen featuring Mr. Blue-Eye or something. Perhaps we could use XDM-External for this? It allows you to use another program instead of the default login widget. See the homepage for more info: http://tr.ml.org/~tom/software/xdm/ Wichert. -- == This combination of bytes forms a message written to you by Wichert Akkerman. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~wichert/ pgpNM8YHf2Qll.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 01:40:57PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Branden Robinson wrote: Someone to follow the lead set at http://tr.ml.org/~tom/software/xdm/ and create a Debian XDM login screen featuring Mr. Blue-Eye or something. Perhaps we could use XDM-External for this? It allows you to use another program instead of the default login widget. See the homepage for more info: http://tr.ml.org/~tom/software/xdm/ scratches head in confusion Isn't that what I just suggested? -- G. Branden Robinson | Convictions are more dangerous enemies Purdue University | of truth than lies. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Friedrich Nietzsche http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpGpHugJXVFg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?
Wanted: Someone to follow the lead set at http://tr.ml.org/~tom/software/xdm/ and create a Debian XDM login screen featuring Mr. Blue-Eye or something. This would be great to have for 2.0, but that's probably not realistic, so it would probably go in 2.1. -- G. Branden Robinson | Reality is what refuses to go away when Purdue University | I stop believing in it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Philip K. Dick http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgprdZj5r1NQP.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Hi. Wanted: Someone to follow the lead set at http://tr.ml.org/~tom/software/xdm/ and create a Debian XDM login screen featuring Mr. Blue-Eye or something. This would be great to have for 2.0, but that's probably not realistic, so it would probably go in 2.1. I just go to this url and I think we could make a pretty login screen without that. The only problem (?) with xdm is that the background where you type your login/password have to be in only one color, no pixmap. Except that fact, I think a login screen with only xdm (+xloadimage) can be really cool. I am ok to make a great login screen. For graphics, I am not the man. Why not call for graphics from the web site like when we were looking for a logo ? That's all. -- Frederic Peters There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]