Re: Backports and debhelper 3 for potato (was: Tool to generate an override file from packages?)
"MH" == Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > Is it _really_ that hard to get debhelper 3 for potato? I did a backport 3 months ago (3.0.31). Only a little bug, you need to call dh_perl with -d. Except that, I never received any "bug report" http://marillat.free.fr/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/index.html Christian
Re: Backports and debhelper 3 for potato (was: Tool to generate an override file from packages?)
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 03:14:09PM +0200, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > >Seems a lot less than most packages. > > Make that "most packages I happen to backport". I am surely only using > a small fraction of Debian, because I mostly run servers that don't > have X or any nifty stuff installed, but I frequently encounter > packages that need debhelper 3. I am not complaining about this, > though. It is good to have new stuff developed. How many of them actually use debhelper 3 features? I know I've been guilty of gratuitously setting DH_COMPAT=3 now and then (and I know dh_make defaults to it, which doesn't help) In at least some cases, changing that to DH_COMPAT=2 and maybe making a few other small tweaks should get a decent backport. It looks like the only v3 features of interest [0] are globbing in config files, automagic insertion of ldconfig by dh_makeshlibs, and automagic conffile-tagging by dh_installdeb. Depending on the package you're compiling, these might not even matter.. Daniel [0] from debhelper(1) -- / Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---\ | "Of course you can't see the guards. They DON'T EXIST!" | | "Oh my god, we're surrounded!" "Run away, run away!" | | -- Fluble | \ News without the $$ -- National Public Radio -- http://www.npr.org /
Backports and debhelper 3 for potato (was: Tool to generate an override file from packages?)
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 13:42:59 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: >On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 09:08:32PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: >> Most sid packages have Build-Depends: debhelper 3 and DH_COMPAT=3 in >> debian/rules. > >find pool/main -type f | grep '/.*/.*.diff.gz' | > while read a; do zgrep -l DH_COMPAT=3 "$a"; done | > sed 's,/[^/]*$,,' | uniq | wc >933 933 13697 > >find pool/main -type f | grep '/.*/.*.diff.gz' | sed 's,/[^/]*$,,' | uniq | wc > 35423542 49523 > >Seems a lot less than most packages. Make that "most packages I happen to backport". I am surely only using a small fraction of Debian, because I mostly run servers that don't have X or any nifty stuff installed, but I frequently encounter packages that need debhelper 3. I am not complaining about this, though. It is good to have new stuff developed. >In any case, though, wanting new packages to be written and uploaded, >and then expecting them somehow to suddenly work on a potato box without >any backporting doesn't make any sense either. You're right. But backporting can be easy, and it can be hard. And it is quite frustrating that a basic tool like debhelper is such a beast to backport. debhelper depends on debconf-utils which is only in later debconfs. And debconf's perl scripts use a lot of perl 5.6 features like "our", and I don't think that there is any other way to get current debconf running on potato than backporting perl 5.6, which is _definetely_ something beyond my knowledge. Is it _really_ that hard to get debhelper 3 for potato? Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom " | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29
