Bug#1030189: Let regular users know need to put non-free-firmware in sources.list
Control: reassign -1 release-notes On 2023-02-01 08:30 +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > Package: general > > The average user will not notice his firmware is not updating any more. Unless they pay close attention to apt(itude)'s messages, that is probably true. > So he must do Google Search. > https://www.google.com/search?q=debian+firmware+non-free > which leads to > https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware > which says > ...a new repository component non-free-firmware... > > So that means he needs to add it to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ > Ah ha! The release notes for Bookworm should and will certainly mention that. I think this is where this bug is actually actionable, so I am reassigning it there. > Yes, he should be regularly subscribed to debian-user, but that's too > much. I have sent a heads-up message[1] there a few days ago, but as you said it got lost in all the other topics discussed there. > Or https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/, but that's too many boring > messages too. There was not even a prominent notice there, at least not in the past few weeks. > Yes, he uses apt-listchanges, but that won't tell him this. > > So I'm saying that Debian needs a mechanism to have his computer tell > him to do this. > > Maybe the next time he uses apt*, somehow the system should tell him... Somehow, but how exactly? Good question that was brought up on debian-devel[2], alas without replies yet. Cheers, Sven 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/01/msg00706.html 2. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2023/01/msg00312.html
Processed: Re: Bug#1030189: Let regular users know need to put non-free-firmware in sources.list
Processing control commands: > reassign -1 release-notes Bug #1030189 [general] Let regular users know need to put non-free-firmware in sources.list Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'release-notes'. Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #1030189 to the same values previously set Ignoring request to alter fixed versions of bug #1030189 to the same values previously set -- 1030189: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1030189 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems
Bug#1030189: Let regular users know need to put non-free-firmware in sources.list
On Wed, 2023-02-01 at 20:13 +0100, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > Am 1. Februar 2023 01:30:10 MEZ schrieb Dan Jacobson > : > > So he must do Google Search. > > Do you think this problem only affects make users? I would expect at least ninja-build users to be affected as well unless they use a VM. Ansgar
Bug#1030189: Let regular users know need to put non-free-firmware in sources.list
Am 1. Februar 2023 01:30:10 MEZ schrieb Dan Jacobson : >So he must do Google Search. Do you think this problem only affects make users? mfh.her.fsr IOhannes
Bug#1030189: Let regular users know need to put non-free-firmware in sources.list
Package: general The average user will not notice his firmware is not updating any more. Some users, if they do $ apt-show-versions |grep 'No available version in archive' will see firmware-amd-graphics:all 20221214-3 installed: No available version in archive firmware-brcm80211:all 20221214-3 installed: No available version in archive... And if they check /var/lib/apt/lists/*_debian_dists_unstable_non-free_i18n_Translation-en.diff_Index will notice something funny happened... 137480 T-2023-01-30-2019.16-F-2023-01-14-1406.12 137194 T-2023-01-30-2019.16-F-2023-01-14-2004.08 137161 T-2023-01-30-2019.16-F-2023-01-16-0203.33 137036 T-2023-01-30-2019.16-F-2023-01-16-2003.44 73251 T-2023-01-30-2019.16-F-2023-01-18-2013.57 73217 T-2023-01-30-2019.16-F-2023-01-19-2008.34 72676 T-2023-01-30-2019.16-F-2023-01-20-2016.02 So he must do Google Search. https://www.google.com/search?q=debian+firmware+non-free which leads to https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware which says ...a new repository component non-free-firmware... So that means he needs to add it to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ Ah ha! Yes, he should be regularly subscribed to debian-user, but that's too much. Or https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/, but that's too many boring messages too. Yes, he uses apt-listchanges, but that won't tell him this. So I'm saying that Debian needs a mechanism to have his computer tell him to do this. Maybe the next time he uses apt*, somehow the system should tell him...
