Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends

1995-10-24 Thread Bdale Garbee
Package: trn
Version: 3.6-2

It's not clear to me why trn uses 'recommends' for a mail transport
and a news article injector, while tin uses 'depends'.  I think that depends
makes more sense, so I'm filing this against trn.

Bdale



Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends

1995-10-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Bdale Garbee writes ("Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends"):
> Package: trn
> Version: 3.6-2
>
> It's not clear to me why trn uses 'recommends' for a mail transport
> and a news article injector, while tin uses 'depends'.  I think that depends
> makes more sense, so I'm filing this against trn.

Recommends is correct.  You can read news perfectly happily without
either a mail transport or a news article injector.

I'll reassign the bug report to tin.

Ian.



Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends

1995-10-27 Thread Kenny Wickstrom
On Tue, 24 Oct 1995, Ian Jackson wrote:

> Bdale Garbee writes ("Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends"):
> > Package: trn
> > Version: 3.6-2
> >
> > It's not clear to me why trn uses 'recommends' for a mail transport
> > and a news article injector, while tin uses 'depends'.  I think that depends
> > makes more sense, so I'm filing this against trn.
>
> Recommends is correct.  You can read news perfectly happily without
> either a mail transport or a news article injector.
>
> I'll reassign the bug report to tin.

Are you sure this is right?  Normal functionality of tin allows the user
to mail a response or the article to an address.  Would it be correct for
the system to allow someone to install a package where some of the
functionality is missing?  This would surely generate another defect
report.

I suppose recommends is a strong enough relationship that the system
maintainer would realize that some functionality may be missing if a
recommended package is missing.

I will make the change to the tin package.

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Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends

1995-10-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Kenny Wickstrom writes ("Re: Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends"):
> On Tue, 24 Oct 1995, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > Bdale Garbee writes ("Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends"):
> > Recommends is correct.  You can read news perfectly happily without
> > either a mail transport or a news article injector.
> >
> > I'll reassign the bug report to tin.
>
> Are you sure this is right?  Normal functionality of tin allows the user
> to mail a response or the article to an address.  Would it be correct for
> the system to allow someone to install a package where some of the
> functionality is missing?  This would surely generate another defect
> report.

No, because it's actually pretty hard to install a package using
dselect and fail to select its Recommended packages too.

You can do it with dpkg, but such bug reports are easy to close (and I
think that most people using dpkg manually will probably have enough
of a clue to think a bit more about what they're doing).

> I suppose recommends is a strong enough relationship that the system
> maintainer would realize that some functionality may be missing if a
> recommended package is missing.

That is part of the definition of the Recommended relationship.

> I will make the change to the tin package.

Thanks,
Ian.