Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-06-01 Thread Baruch Even
* Christian Surchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030601 13:59]:
 On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 09:01:37PM +0300, Baruch Even wrote:
  MGT is much more capable than gnome-terminal, I prefer the power of MGT
  over gnome-terminal, and if no-one else will step in, I'd be willing to
  maintain MGT myself.
 
 I think I can't find enough time... and I'd like to see it maintained
 again! ;-)

Francois Marier seems to be faster than me (or more interested to do the
actual maintenance :-)

He is at the final stages of NM queue (pending DAM approval), so
hopefully soon he'll be able to do full work on this package. I'll be
willing to sponsor him if needed.

Baruch




Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-31 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 30, Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm quite happy to believe that, but would you like to list some of the
 capabilities it has that gnome-terminal doesn't so at to let the rest of
 us understand as well?
It allows to hide the tabs. This is a requirement for me, as I cannot
afford to waste the vertical space.

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Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-31 Thread Christian Surchi
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 09:01:37PM +0300, Baruch Even wrote:
 MGT is much more capable than gnome-terminal, I prefer the power of MGT
 over gnome-terminal, and if no-one else will step in, I'd be willing to
 maintain MGT myself.

I think I can't find enough time... and I'd like to see it maintained
again! ;-)

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Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-31 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 30, Sebastian Rittau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there anything that multi-gnome-terminal can do that the current
 (GNOME 2) gnome-terminal cannot? Is there any point in keeping this
Yes, gnome-terminal forces me to have a useless (I always use the
keyboard to switch tab) tabs bar.

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Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-30 Thread Akira TAGOH
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal

I'm orphaning multi-gnome-terminal package now, because I
don't use it at this point, and I have no enough time to
maintain such package. presumably there might be the
appropriate DD than me to maintain this package.

Description is here:
 Multi Gnome Terminal is an enhanced version of gnome-terminal which
 has the following features added:
 .
  - Many terminals in each window
  - Switch between terminals using shortcuts
  - Execution of user defined commands in new terminals
  - Notification of terminal states (changed, changing, unchanged)
using different tabs colors
  - Reorderable tabs
 .
 All this extensions are inspired by screen and konsole (the KDE2
 terminal)


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Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-30 Thread Sebastian Rittau
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 12:00:13AM +0900, Akira TAGOH wrote:

 I'm orphaning multi-gnome-terminal package now, because I
 don't use it at this point, and I have no enough time to
 maintain such package. presumably there might be the
 appropriate DD than me to maintain this package.

Is there anything that multi-gnome-terminal can do that the current
(GNOME 2) gnome-terminal cannot? Is there any point in keeping this
obsolete GNOME 1 package? If not, I would suggest to file a bug against
ftp.gnome.org, requesting its removal.

 - Sebastian




Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-30 Thread Christian Surchi
 ==
 Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 17:25:15 +0200
 From: Sebastian Rittau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced 
 the GNOME Terminal
 ==
 
 Is there anything that multi-gnome-terminal can do that the current
 (GNOME 2) gnome-terminal cannot? Is there any point in keeping 
 this
 obsolete GNOME 1 package? If not, I would suggest to file a bug 
 against
 ftp.gnome.org, requesting its removal.

It's not obsolete, and probably it will be ported to GNOME2 too... I use it and 
I don't use gnome-terminal because IMHO is not heavy and more stable. 

bye
christian

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Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-30 Thread Baruch Even
MGT is much more capable than gnome-terminal, I prefer the power of MGT
over gnome-terminal, and if no-one else will step in, I'd be willing to
maintain MGT myself.

I wouldn't think that any GNOME 1 program is obsolete. In this case MGT
provides useful functionality and the fact that it's based on GNOME 1 is
meaningless.

Baruch

* Sebastian Rittau [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030530 19:06]:
 On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 12:00:13AM +0900, Akira TAGOH wrote:
 
  I'm orphaning multi-gnome-terminal package now, because I
  don't use it at this point, and I have no enough time to
  maintain such package. presumably there might be the
  appropriate DD than me to maintain this package.
 
 Is there anything that multi-gnome-terminal can do that the current
 (GNOME 2) gnome-terminal cannot? Is there any point in keeping this
 obsolete GNOME 1 package? If not, I would suggest to file a bug against
 ftp.gnome.org, requesting its removal.
 
  - Sebastian




Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-30 Thread Akira TAGOH
 On Fri, 30 May 2003 17:25:15 +0200,
 SR == Sebastian Rittau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

SR On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 12:00:13AM +0900, Akira TAGOH wrote:
 I'm orphaning multi-gnome-terminal package now, because I
 don't use it at this point, and I have no enough time to
 maintain such package. presumably there might be the
 appropriate DD than me to maintain this package.

SR Is there anything that multi-gnome-terminal can do that the current
SR (GNOME 2) gnome-terminal cannot? Is there any point in keeping this
SR obsolete GNOME 1 package? If not, I would suggest to file a bug against
SR ftp.gnome.org, requesting its removal.

It's not in ftp.gnome.org. the upstream is
multignometerm.sf.net. I'm not sure they are going to port
it to GNOME2, but at least they said, 1.6.2 is last release
before 2.x. I guess mgt 2.x is for GNOME2.

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Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-30 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On pe, 2003-05-30 at 21:01, Baruch Even wrote:
 MGT is much more capable than gnome-terminal,

I'm quite happy to believe that, but would you like to list some of the
capabilities it has that gnome-terminal doesn't so at to let the rest of
us understand as well?

(The list provided in a couple of messages upwards in the message tree
didn't seem very convincing to me, given that gnome-terminal for Gnome 2
seems to do most of the things already, if not all.)

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Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-30 Thread Baruch Even
* Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030530 22:57]:
 On pe, 2003-05-30 at 21:01, Baruch Even wrote:
  MGT is much more capable than gnome-terminal,
 
 I'm quite happy to believe that, but would you like to list some of the
 capabilities it has that gnome-terminal doesn't so at to let the rest of
 us understand as well?

I only had a cursory look on gnome-terminal, but one of the features I
use a lot and is missing in it is splitting of the terminal to multiple
panes, so that I have three terminals in a single view. As such:

+---+
|   |
|   |
|   |
+-+-+
| | |
| | |
+-+-+

gnome-terminal also doesn't have search in the terminal buffer.

These are the two I use and couldn't find in gnome-terminal, there may
be others and there may be not. But I still don't think that keeping MGT
causes so much trouble that it should be removed.

Baruch




Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-30 Thread Sebastian Rittau
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 03:34:50AM +0900, Akira TAGOH wrote:
  On Fri, 30 May 2003 17:25:15 +0200,
  SR == Sebastian Rittau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 SR Is there anything that multi-gnome-terminal can do that the current
 SR (GNOME 2) gnome-terminal cannot? Is there any point in keeping this
 SR obsolete GNOME 1 package? If not, I would suggest to file a bug against
 SR ftp.gnome.org, requesting its removal.
 
 It's not in ftp.gnome.org. the upstream is
 multignometerm.sf.net.

Oops, I meant ftp.debian.org, of course. So, my suggestion basically
was: Are you sure you want to orphan this package? Wouldn't it be better
to remove it from the archive, instead? But since people have already
spoken up, who astill use this package, this question has become
meaningless.

 - Sebastian