Re: Bug#276871 acknowledged by developer (Bug#276871: fixed in gdm 2.8.0.6-1)

2005-11-17 Thread Guilherme de S. Pastore
Em Qui, 2005-11-17 às 17:46 -0200, Guilherme de S. Pastore escreveu:
> I also suggest you look for discussions about this on the debian-devel
> archives... It's already been exhaustingly discussed several times
> before.

I apologize for not giving any pointers, as I thought they would be too
difficult to find. However, the first result of a quick google search is
already good enough:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/04/msg00291.html

See ya,

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Re: Bug#276871 acknowledged by developer (Bug#276871: fixed in gdm 2.8.0.6-1)

2005-11-17 Thread Guilherme de S. Pastore
Em Qui, 2005-11-17 às 11:12 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez escreveu:
> Personally, I will list multiple bugs in the new upstream release line
> in my changelog, if they are actually fixed.

And I surely hope you figure out it's a bad thing and stop doing that. I
suggest you take a look at the gnome-applets 2.12.1-1 changelog[0].
Don't you think it's far more useful and makes people waste less time
when looking at it or looking for changes at a later date?

I also suggest you look for discussions about this on the debian-devel
archives... It's already been exhaustingly discussed several times
before.

[0]: http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gnome-applets/news/1.html

Regards,

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Re: Bug#276871: acknowledged by developer (Bug#276871: fixed in gdm 2.8.0.6-1)

2005-11-17 Thread Josselin Mouette
Why didn't you keep debian-devel as Cc ?

Le jeudi 17 novembre 2005 à 09:31 -0800, Ryan Murray a écrit :
> The debian/changelog file documents the changes _I_ made.  And the change I
> made was "new upstream release".  The list of bugs that fixes is listed.
> If you want to see details of changes upstream made, the upstream changelog
> contains these details.  If you have reason to believe that upstream has not
> fixed these bugs, that is what the reopen command is for.  Please stop using
> the command for other reasons.

Oh, and where in the upstream changelog can we find the references to
the closed Debian bugs?

Is it really too much for you to add that in the changelog:
 * New upstream release (closes: #313200)
   + Now treats all mouse buttons equally (closes: #258934).
   + IncludeOnly patch is integrated (closes: #327464).
   + Binaries moved to /usr/sbin (closes: #261979).
   + gdmflexiserver provides an option to start a new X server anyway   
 (closes: #309224).
   + ...

When you need 5 months to package a new version, I'd guess you could
take 5 minutes to write a decent changelog entry. If you don't even have
that time, may I recall that you have received numerous help proposals
for this package during the last two years and that you ignored all of
them?

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Re: Bug#276871 acknowledged by developer (Bug#276871: fixed in gdm 2.8.0.6-1)

2005-11-17 Thread Frank Küster
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Personally, I will list multiple bugs in the new upstream release line
> in my changelog, if they are actually fixed.

Personally, I will reopen the bug should you do so on a bug I reported,
without prior explanations sent to me.  BTW, a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that
just sets the tag, but gives no explanation is as bad as nothing.

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Debian Developer



Re: Bug#276871 acknowledged by developer (Bug#276871: fixed in gdm 2.8.0.6-1)

2005-11-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 11:12:22AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I looked at all the bugs for gdm and the bugs you reopened were tagged
> as upstream and/or fixed-upstream.

And as the bug reporter, you never get the message that says that the
bug has been tagged. *That* could be subject to a bug report to b.d.o.

> I don't think that the bug closures
> were meant to imply that you requested a new upstream version, just that
> the bug has now been fixed in the upstream release.
> 
> Personally, I will list multiple bugs in the new upstream release line
> in my changelog, if they are actually fixed.

I don't want to repeat what has been said over and over each time such
issues has been raised, but basically, i'd expect the changelog to at
least say what kind of bug is fixed or even better what has been done so
that the bug was fixed, instead of just closing in this way. The Closes:
facility in changelogs is not a bare replacement for the bts close command
line.

Cheers,

Mike


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Re: Bug#276871 acknowledged by developer (Bug#276871: fixed in gdm 2.8.0.6-1)

2005-11-17 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 01:17:44PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
> reopen 276871 309224 258934 327464 261979 290916 304027 314449
> thanks
> 
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 04:03:08AM -0800, Debian Bug Tracking System <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is an automatic notification regarding your Bug report
> > #276871: Date shown in gdm is correctly localized, but only for a minute.,
> > which was filed against the gdm package.
> [...]
> >* New upstream release (closes: #313200, #309224, #258934, #327464, 
> > #261979,
> >  #290916, #276871, #304027, #314449)
> 
> I'm happy to see that my bug, and many others, have been considered as a 
> request
> for new upstream, which #313200 is, by the way.
> 
> When will people just stop doing that ?!?
> 
> Mike
> 
> 

I looked at all the bugs for gdm and the bugs you reopened were tagged
as upstream and/or fixed-upstream.  I don't think that the bug closures
were meant to imply that you requested a new upstream version, just that
the bug has now been fixed in the upstream release.

Personally, I will list multiple bugs in the new upstream release line
in my changelog, if they are actually fixed.

-Roberto

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Re: Bug#276871 acknowledged by developer (Bug#276871: fixed in gdm 2.8.0.6-1)

2005-11-17 Thread Mike Hommey
reopen 276871 309224 258934 327464 261979 290916 304027 314449
thanks

On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 04:03:08AM -0800, Debian Bug Tracking System <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is an automatic notification regarding your Bug report
> #276871: Date shown in gdm is correctly localized, but only for a minute.,
> which was filed against the gdm package.
[...]
>* New upstream release (closes: #313200, #309224, #258934, #327464, 
> #261979,
>  #290916, #276871, #304027, #314449)

I'm happy to see that my bug, and many others, have been considered as a request
for new upstream, which #313200 is, by the way.

When will people just stop doing that ?!?

Mike


Sidenote:
>* Pass -dpi 96 to the X Server by default (closes: #285029)
That sucks badly. You just broke configuration of people who actually have a
correct configuration of their X Server.


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