Re: Bug#290362: www.debian.org: Please add Root to list of programs that cannot be packaged

2005-01-20 Thread Tim Dijkstra
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:09:41 -0500
Kevin McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There are two problems: first, the license [1] forbids redistribution
 of modified binaries without permission of the authors, which some
 have argued makes it unsuitable even for non-free [2]; second, and
 worse, the software contains what appears to be code derived from
 cernlib (GPL) [3] and Xclass(LGPL) [4] while having a license
 incompatible with either.
 
 [1] http://root.cern.ch/root/License.html
 [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/01/msg00297.html
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/01/msg00281.html
 [3] http://cernlib.web.cern.ch/cernlib/conditions.html
 [4] http://xclass.sourceforge.net/
 
 This is most unfortunate, since Root is a very useful tool and a
 number of interesting projects are based on it, but I don't see how
 Debian can legally package it, even in non-free, until upstream
 changes their license.

I read the threads you linked to above, but I couldn't find a reference
to anybody explaining the ROOT guys what the problem is. Did anybody
try, what was their response?

grts Tim


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Re: Bug#290362: www.debian.org: Please add Root to list of programs that cannot be packaged

2005-01-20 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Sam Watkins wrote:

 I wrote to them just now, and Fons said:
 
 Hi Sam,
 
   we are in the process of removing the single non OS limitation from our
 license in the very near future (coming months/weeks). The xclass derived
 work is solely contained in one single library libGui. The author of xclass
 is very aware of our work and ROOT is referenced from the xclass web pages.
 
 Anyway, stay tuned for the announcement of ROOT being completely OS.
 
 I guess this is good news!

Very cool!  I'm CC-ing this to Ricardo Yanez, the latest person to ITP Root.

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Bug#290362: www.debian.org: Please add Root to list of programs that cannot be packaged

2005-01-13 Thread Kevin McCarty
Package: www.debian.org
Severity: wishlist

Hello,

Could someone please add Root (http://root.cern.ch/) to the list of software
that cannot be packaged, http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/unable-to-package
?  There have been several attempts at ITPs:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/1999/12/msg9.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/01/msg00278.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2004/12/msg00278.html

There are two problems: first, the license [1] forbids redistribution of
modified binaries without permission of the authors, which some have argued
makes it unsuitable even for non-free [2]; second, and worse, the software
contains what appears to be code derived from cernlib (GPL) [3] and Xclass
(LGPL) [4] while having a license incompatible with either.

[1] http://root.cern.ch/root/License.html
[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/01/msg00297.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/01/msg00281.html
[3] http://cernlib.web.cern.ch/cernlib/conditions.html
[4] http://xclass.sourceforge.net/

This is most unfortunate, since Root is a very useful tool and a number of
interesting projects are based on it, but I don't see how Debian can
legally package it, even in non-free, until upstream changes their license.

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regards,

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