Bug#496967: general: System completely blocks any input
Frank Küster schrieb am Saturday, den 30. August 2008: Hi, *snip* Is there any live system available which can handle lvm volumes? I think I even have some free disk space for an additional partition to install the live system on harddisk. But I cannot access it from Knoppix, and didn't find information on lvm in the Knoppix FAQ. grml [1] has support for lvm. Just start it via /etc/init.d/lvm start after booting. Alex [1] http://www.grml.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#496967: general: System completely blocks any input
reassign 496967 linux-2.6 forcemerge 479709 496967 thanks Stepan Golosunov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks similar to #479709, which happens with linux 2.6.25/2.6.26 but not 2.6.24 and seems to be provoked by chrony. Bingo, thanks. Although I personally feal the bug is super-duper-hyper-grave, I leave the judgement to the linux maintainers. Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster Debian Developer (TeXLive) ADFC Miltenberg B90/Grüne KV Miltenberg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: reassign 496967 linux-2.6 Bug#496967: general: System completely blocks any input Bug reassigned from package `general' to `linux-2.6'. forcemerge 479709 496967 Bug#479709: linux-image-2.6.25-1-amd64: Kernel 2.6.25 freezes after several hours of uptime. System runs fine with .24 Bug#496967: general: System completely blocks any input Forcibly Merged 479709 496967. thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#496967: general: System completely blocks any input
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:21:16PM +0200, Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Is there any live system available which can handle lvm volumes? I think I even have some free disk space for an additional partition to install the live system on harddisk. But I cannot access it from Knoppix, and didn't find information on lvm in the Knoppix FAQ. I haven't tried it, but I would expect that the Ubuntu live CD has the necessary support. e.g., this article says it works if you install the lvm user-space tools in the live system: http://linuxwave.blogspot.com/2007/11/mounting-lvm-disk-using-ubuntu-livecd.html Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#496967: general: System completely blocks any input
Hi, Am 29.08.2008 um 20:20 schrieb Lars Wirzenius: pe, 2008-08-29 kello 19:51 +0200, Frank Küster kirjoitti: Any ideas how I can start debugging this? My first suspicion would be about the hardware. Mine too. You could run memtest86+ for at least 12 hours or until the first error. Can I download an iso image of a boot CD with memtest86+ somewhere? I have only this single Linux machine at the moment, and there's no chance at all that the machine works long enough that I am able to install the package and understand how to create an image. Another idea: you could test the system with another version of Debian, or with Ubuntu, Knoppix, or another live CD, and see if you can reproduce the problem with that. That's exactly what I did and why I am reporting this as a Debian bug: It never occurred when booting from a Knoppix CD, even after hours. The only thing that is different hardware-wise is that the harddisk is mostly inactive in Knoppix. Is there any live system available which can handle lvm volumes? I think I even have some free disk space for an additional partition to install the live system on harddisk. But I cannot access it from Knoppix, and didn't find information on lvm in the Knoppix FAQ. TIA, Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#496967: general: System completely blocks any input
29.08.2008 в 19:51:13 +0200 Frank Küster написал: Am 28.08.2008 um 22:41 schrieb Frank Küster: Package: general Severity: grave Since late last week, my system completely hangs - it stops accepting any input from keyboard or mouse - after 3 to 5 minutes after booting. This happens both in a text console and when running X. I should have been more specific here. It's not only the input, it's the output as well. For example, if aptitude is downloading packages in an rxvt window, the percent count stops changing as well, the display is also frozen. Any (ethernet) network also seems to stop: It no longer answers to pings, and a remote ssh login stops working, too. Any ideas how I can start debugging this? Looks similar to #479709, which happens with linux 2.6.25/2.6.26 but not 2.6.24 and seems to be provoked by chrony. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#496967: general: System completely blocks any input
Hi, Am 29.08.2008 um 23:44 schrieb J.A. Bezemer: Boot with init=/bin/sh and wait. Still hangs? - kernel or hardware problem. It didn't hang for nearly an hour, and now again with the first couple of scripts in /etc/rcS.d executed it is running for 20 minutes. I'll give it 15 minutes after each change and then try the next couple of scripts. By the way, is there a possibility to stop a process in /bin/sh? I executed while true; do uptime; sleep 10; done and couldn't stop it with Ctrl+c. I invoked bash as a workaround. Open case and put a big fan in front. Replace power supply. It's a laptop, and the sensors didn't report anything suspicious. It hangs with battery only and with external power only, that doesn't matter. Thanks for the hints (strange how one is completely devoid of ideas when it's one's one machine...) Regards, Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#496967: general: System completely blocks any input
On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 14:26 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: Hi, Am 29.08.2008 um 23:44 schrieb J.A. Bezemer: Boot with init=/bin/sh and wait. Still hangs? - kernel or hardware problem. It didn't hang for nearly an hour, and now again with the first couple of scripts in /etc/rcS.d executed it is running for 20 minutes. I'll give it 15 minutes after each change and then try the next couple of scripts. By the way, is there a possibility to stop a process in /bin/sh? I executed while true; do uptime; sleep 10; done and couldn't stop it with Ctrl+c. I invoked bash as a workaround. That should work, but the interrupt key is part of the terminal settings and bash may override them where sh does not. stty sane (why is the terminal not sane by default?) should fix this. It may also be useful to use openvt to create another virtual console in case you run something that cannot be interrupted. Open case and put a big fan in front. Replace power supply. It's a laptop, and the sensors didn't report anything suspicious. It hangs with battery only and with external power only, that doesn't matter. Thanks for the hints (strange how one is completely devoid of ideas when it's one's one machine...) Have you tried switching back to the text console after X starts and then waiting for the system to hang? If it is oops-ing you should get a backtrace there, and you may also be able to use magic SysRq http://kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysrq.txt to get more information. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings It is easier to write an incorrect program than to understand a correct one. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Bug#496967: general: System completely blocks any input
I demand that Lawrence Williams may or may not have written... On Friday, August 29, 2008 03:21:13 pm Frank Küster wrote: I should have been more specific here. It's not only the input, it's the output as well. For example, if aptitude is downloading packages in an rxvt window, the percent count stops changing as well, the display is also frozen. This sounds like a kernel panic to me. Anyone else have any thoughts? If so, the computer may still be pingable and the various SysRq functions should work (though, normally, only reboot and power off will have obvious effects). I suggest using netconsole to log to another computer. -- | Darren Salt| linux or ds at | nr. Ashington, | Toon | RISC OS, Linux | youmustbejoking,demon,co,uk | Northumberland | Army | + Burn less waste. Use less packaging. Waste less. USE FEWER RESOURCES. You will survive the conflagration. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#496967: general: System completely blocks any input
Hi, Am 28.08.2008 um 22:41 schrieb Frank Küster: Package: general Severity: grave Since late last week, my system completely hangs - it stops accepting any input from keyboard or mouse - after 3 to 5 minutes after booting. This happens both in a text console and when running X. I should have been more specific here. It's not only the input, it's the output as well. For example, if aptitude is downloading packages in an rxvt window, the percent count stops changing as well, the display is also frozen. Any (ethernet) network also seems to stop: It no longer answers to pings, and a remote ssh login stops working, too. Any ideas how I can start debugging this? Regards, Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#496967: general: System completely blocks any input
This sounds like a kernel panic to me. Anyone else have any thoughts? - Lawrence On Friday, August 29, 2008 03:21:13 pm Frank Küster wrote: I should have been more specific here. It's not only the input, it's the output as well. For example, if aptitude is downloading packages in an rxvt window, the percent count stops changing as well, the display is also frozen. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#496967: general: System completely blocks any input
pe, 2008-08-29 kello 19:51 +0200, Frank Küster kirjoitti: Any ideas how I can start debugging this? My first suspicion would be about the hardware. You could run memtest86+ for at least 12 hours or until the first error. Another idea: you could test the system with another version of Debian, or with Ubuntu, Knoppix, or another live CD, and see if you can reproduce the problem with that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#496967: general: System completely blocks any input
Hello, Am Freitag, den 29.08.2008, 19:51 +0200 schrieb Frank Küster: Since late last week, my system completely hangs - it stops accepting any input from keyboard or mouse - after 3 to 5 minutes after booting. This happens both in a text console and when running X. I should have been more specific here. It's not only the input, it's the output as well. For example, if aptitude is downloading packages in an rxvt window, the percent count stops changing as well, the display is also frozen. I noticed something similiar, with the VMware Workstation 6.5 Beta I thought this was just a bug in the beta but maybe it's somewhere in Debian. For example sometimes I just rsync a whole system to another one. and then it seems to hang like you experience it. But if I then just hide the window and unhide it again, then it get's updated once. I had to do it a few times to check if rsync was finished or not. So the system was still running it was just the graphic output in my case which wasn't updated. Any (ethernet) network also seems to stop: It no longer answers to pings, and a remote ssh login stops working, too. Hm unfortunately I don't know if in my case the network still worked or not. If it happens again for me I try to find more about it. On my native real Debian sid/experimental system I hadn't this problem yet. -- Felix Zielcke -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#496967: general: System completely blocks any input
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:51:13 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: Any ideas how I can start debugging this? I had something similar a few months ago, and it was related to the kernel's clocksource setting. But that was with 2.6.21 and 2.6.22, so probably doesn't apply here. Cheers, gregor -- .''`. http://info.comodo.priv.at/ | gpg key ID: 0x00F3CFE4 : :' : debian gnu/linux user, admin developer - http://www.debian.org/ `. `' member of https://www.vibe.at/ | how to reply: http://got.to/quote/ `-NP: Dido: Best Day signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#496967: general: System completely blocks any input
Package: general Severity: grave Since late last week, my system completely hangs - it stops accepting any input from keyboard or mouse - after 3 to 5 minutes after booting. This happens both in a text console and when running X. Of course I suspected a hardware problem first, but the manufacturers test program (a version of PC doctor for IBM Thinkpads) gives no errors at all, and does not result in hanging even after more than an hour. Similarly, I can boot from a Knoppix CD and run it happily for hours. Therefore, it seems to me that it is a problem with the Debian installation, a quite up-to-date testing. There were no log messages at all in syslog, messages, or kern.log which point to a cause. I tried with the current lenny kernel (2.6.26, I think) and the previous one (2.6.25), and there was no difference - so it is probably not the kernel. I have no idea how I can access the LVM volumes on the harddrive, therefore I have a hard time presenting details from logs. I will try to copy interesting things (like dpkg.log) to /boot which is not on LVM. Don't delay lenny's release because of this - but in case this is actually a grave bug, I think I'd rather report it now than complain later... Regards, Frank -- System Information: Debian Release: 4.0 Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /UNIONFS/bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.19 Locale: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (charmap=ISO-8859-15) (ignored: LC_ALL set to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
