Cosing ITA bugs when you've changed your mind.

2003-07-24 Thread Thomas Viehmann
reopen 180993 !
thanks

Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
 I've never agreed to leave phpgroupware to any maintainer, and i'm now back
 and actively working on my package, so I'm closing this report.

You have RFA'd phpgroupware and I've ITA'd it. Waiting until the ugly work (i.e.
the security update to stable) is getting done by others and then popping back
out of your hole to say April fools is not acceptable.
Your maintainance of phpGroupWare has been limited to yelling at people wanting
to finally do something about the embarrassingly poor state of Debian packages,
and it's time to let that go. [0] (In private mail, one of the upstream
developers who uses Debian told me that he would not use those debs, even if
someone paid [him], I've been getting private mails form other users with the
same bad experience with phpgroupware.) Maybe you are one of the examples on why
the NM process isn't thorough (slow) enough at present.
If you cannot incorporate a simple patch in BTS fixing RC bugs into your
packages [1], how will you collaborate using alioth?
Ever wondered why your appeals for cooperation have no response? Look at
#164354. Have I ever received a response to my offer to help (along with patch)
in #183896? No.

Cheers

T.

0. See
 http://bugs.debian.org/164354
 http://bugs.debian.org/phpgroupware (esp. #183896)
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2003/debian-mentors-200306/msg00049.html
1. http://bugs.debian.org/183896



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Re: Cosing ITA bugs when you've changed your mind.

2003-07-24 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 08:27:06AM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote:
 You have RFA'd phpgroupware and I've ITA'd it. Waiting until the ugly work 
 (i.e.
 the security update to stable) is getting done by others and then popping back
 out of your hole to say April fools is not acceptable.
 Your maintainance of phpGroupWare has been limited to yelling at people 
 wanting
 to finally do something about the embarrassingly poor state of Debian 
 packages,
 and it's time to let that go. [0] (In private mail, one of the upstream
 developers who uses Debian told me that he would not use those debs, even if
 someone paid [him], I've been getting private mails form other users with the
 same bad experience with phpgroupware.) Maybe you are one of the examples on 
 why
 the NM process isn't thorough (slow) enough at present.

Your ideas of hindering people contributing is a non-sense i've already told
you. There is no benefit in this for anyone.
We have never discussed about your adoption of phpgroupware, so i don't see why
you felt free to adopt it.
I've already told you, and i'm writing it publically, that an infrastructure to
cooperate is up in place and i've already told you i would have let you
contribute beside your almost intent to hijack. I wrote it publically in
_many_ ways i wanted people to help me, but the only answares i got was to take
over the packges (and many fake intent to contribute). This really make me sick.

 If you cannot incorporate a simple patch in BTS fixing RC bugs into your
 packages [1], how will you collaborate using alioth?

I would let people apply their patch to the cvs directly being able to catch
diffs and reviewing work and seeing people really contribute.

 Ever wondered why your appeals for cooperation have no response? Look at
 #164354. Have I ever received a response to my offer to help (along with 
 patch)
 in #183896? No.

You still do not understand what is being busy might mean (apart the fact that
you patch didn't provide a real solution to the bug).

I don't know how to demonstrate any more that your opinon about me are faulty.
I supposed my self to be the last person who would not let people work with me.

I'm still here saying that i'll be happy to cooperate and let you in, but i'm
wandering if i'm doing the right thing.

ciao,
-- 
Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis  | Elegant or ugly code as well
aliases: Luca ^De [A-Z][A-Za-z\-]*[iy]'\?s$ | as fine or rude sentences have
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Re: Cosing ITA bugs when you've changed your mind.

2003-07-24 Thread Keith Dunwoody
Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 08:27:06AM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote:
You have RFA'd phpgroupware and I've ITA'd it. Waiting until the ugly work (i.e.
the security update to stable) is getting done by others and then popping back
out of your hole to say April fools is not acceptable.
Your maintainance of phpGroupWare has been limited to yelling at people wanting
to finally do something about the embarrassingly poor state of Debian packages,
and it's time to let that go. [0] (In private mail, one of the upstream
developers who uses Debian told me that he would not use those debs, even if
someone paid [him], I've been getting private mails form other users with the
same bad experience with phpgroupware.) Maybe you are one of the examples on why
the NM process isn't thorough (slow) enough at present.

Your ideas of hindering people contributing is a non-sense i've already told
you. There is no benefit in this for anyone.
We have never discussed about your adoption of phpgroupware, so i don't see why
you felt free to adopt it.
I've already told you, and i'm writing it publically, that an infrastructure to
cooperate is up in place and i've already told you i would have let you
contribute beside your almost intent to hijack. I wrote it publically in
_many_ ways i wanted people to help me, but the only answares i got was to take
over the packges (and many fake intent to contribute). This really make me sick.
Maybe he was confused and thought that you wanted someone to adopt 
phpgroupware because
you'd filed a Request For Adoption on it?
-- Keith



Re: Cosing ITA bugs when you've changed your mind.

2003-07-24 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 08:27:06AM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote:
Hmm. I guess I've somewhat misunderstood the RFA and your comments on it.

Cheers

T.


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