Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
FYI: I have sent in two abstracts for talks at the Linux Tag, one of them is about Debian GNU. Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Christian Weisgerber wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Federico Di Gregorio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking about being there (I'll come from italy). If you find something, Wichert, can you please let me know... I CAN'T read german (hope conference language will be english, at least in part). The conference language will be German. In particular, all presentations will be in German. Sorry. I'm not entirely happy with this, but the bulk of the target audience are unsophisticated users who would be discouraged by English (even if they wouldn't admit it). It's a trade-off; we would probably not be able to attract more people from throughout Europe than we would lose from the nearby 100km radius. Feedback to the contrary will be given due consideration for LinuxTag 2000. ;-) Of course you can talk to the various exhibitors in English, and the mentioned Debian BOF/developers meeting could be done in English, too. I am considering flying over from London to visit the conference, if only to hang out with other people from outside Germany. More support for non-German speakers would ensure that I would be there. -- I am in London and would like to meet any Linux users here. I plan to work in London for 3 - 6 months...
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 03:45:46PM +0100, Philipp Frauenfelder wrote: Btw, how much is a stone throw? According to the map I used it's 62.5 km (if you go by plane). By train it will take 1.5 h . Christoph -- * Christoph Baumann * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~cbauman1/welcome.html* * External Error : INTELLIGENCE not found !* pgpkMBE9N0Qh9.pgp Description: PGP signature
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It looks like a couple of us are able to attend, and most will need some place to stay. I think we need a volunteer to organize all this. Any willing to do this? Wichert. -- == This combination of bytes forms a message written to you by Wichert Akkerman. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~wichert/ pgpaF5aoBFupc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
Hi! Someone mentioned the youth hostel at Hochspeyer. I know it. It is rather big and Hochspeyer has railroad connection to Kaiserslautern. Maybe I can also get a car to assist Thimo with transporting if someone wants to stay in Heidelberg (we have a youth hostel too, I can't offer sleeping place, sorry). Christoph -- * Christoph Baumann * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~cbauman1/welcome.html* * External Error : INTELLIGENCE not found !* pgpPer5NsB4It.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
Christoph Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Maybe I can also get a car to assist Thimo with transporting if someone wants to stay in Heidelberg (we have a youth hostel too, I can't offer sleeping place, sorry) Would be an option, especially if one goes there by car or such. Btw, how much is a stone throw? Regards, Philipp
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Bramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One question: Is it right, that you search for a Linux Distribution for your 'Tagungs-CD'. Last year it was suse, the year befor redhat. Right? This year, debian? Choosing the underlying distribution to build the LinuxTag CD from has always been a most painful decision. The infighting that occurred last year over the choice SuSE vs. Red Hat turned ugly. I don't expect the decision to come any easier this year. Frankly, I don't think that Debian has a realistic chance. Partly this has pragmatic reasons: Only a minority of the LinuxTag crew--and a not particularly outspoken one at that--uses Debian, and I don't think we have anybody who knows how to build a debian package. The other part I don't want to get into here, but rational reasons don't come into it. Just in case: How much support could the Debian project give us for production of a Debian-based LinuxTag CD-ROM? -- Christian naddy Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] carpe librum: books 'n' reviews URL:http://www.carpe.com/buch/
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 08:35:06PM +0100, Christian Weisgerber wrote: Choosing the underlying distribution to build the LinuxTag CD from has always been a most painful decision. The infighting that occurred last year over the choice SuSE vs. Red Hat turned ugly. I don't expect the decision to come any easier this year. :) Wenn zwei sich streiten, freut sich der Dritte. (transl: if two are struggeling, the third is lucky). Just in case: How much support could the Debian project give us for production of a Debian-based LinuxTag CD-ROM? Any you need. At least from me, and I think from anybody working with/on Debian. I don't know what the LinuxTag CD does contain beside the distribution. Could you give a small summary? Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Michael Bramer wrote: All is in german. No part is in english. sorry. Does this mean there's little point in English-only people turning up? (maybe if we get enough debian people there, we can have a bilingual stall :)) Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
Federico Di Gregorio wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 03:54:55PM +0100, Christian Weisgerber wrote: Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: End of June.. sounds like I'll be able to be there. Does anyone know any cheap places to stay for a couple of days in the neighborhood? I am thinking about being there (I'll come from italy). If you find something, Wichert, can you please let me know... I CAN'T read german (hope conference language will be english, at least in part). Errr, you'd better wait for the German Linux Kongress then which is a real conference, with talks held in english. As far as I remember the Linuxtag is an exhibition with some talks for users (contrary to the conference which is meant for developers or both). Regards, Joey -- Those who don't understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Federico Di Gregorio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking about being there (I'll come from italy). If you find something, Wichert, can you please let me know... I CAN'T read german (hope conference language will be english, at least in part). The conference language will be German. In particular, all presentations will be in German. Sorry. I'm not entirely happy with this, but the bulk of the target audience are unsophisticated users who would be discouraged by English (even if they wouldn't admit it). It's a trade-off; we would probably not be able to attract more people from throughout Europe than we would lose from the nearby 100km radius. Feedback to the contrary will be given due consideration for LinuxTag 2000. ;-) Of course you can talk to the various exhibitors in English, and the mentioned Debian BOF/developers meeting could be done in English, too. -- Christian naddy Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] carpe librum: books 'n' reviews URL:http://www.carpe.com/buch/
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I can come, too. It's a weekend which is nice. I hope the youthhostel has enough beds for everyone. We intend to contact the youth hostel and ask them to generally reserve as many beds as possible for LinuxTag visitors, but AFAIK this hasn't been done yet. If you plan to stay there, please be aware that the youth hostel is not located in Kaiserslautern proper but in a nearby small town (Hoch- speyer) deep in the woods, and for all practical purposes a car will be required to get from there to Kaiserslautern and vice versa. Debianers, can we organize us a bit? It would indeed be helpful if the Debian team could organize and speak with one voice to us. -- Christian naddy Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] carpe librum: books 'n' reviews URL:http://www.carpe.com/buch/
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Philipp Frauenfelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 26 and 27 of june is a weekend, right? cal is part of the bsdmainutils package, which is listed as important. ;-) There is a youth hostel about 15km away. Check http://www.djh.de/herbergsverzeichnis/herbergen/6/67691.html 21.- (which currency? Euro or DM?) for bed and breakfast. That's DEM. Note that the seniors category starts at the tender age of 27. Does one need to be member of an association to get a bed there? Uh, I don't think so. -- Christian naddy Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] carpe librum: books 'n' reviews URL:http://www.carpe.com/buch/
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
hi Ship's Log, Lt. Wichert Akkerman, Stardate 190199.0220: If possible it might be nice to organise a couple of things like a meeting for Debian developers and a BOF about Debian maintainership. Oh, and the obligatory PGP-signing session of course :) I'd like to join, but I'm not sure about the date. Please keep me (the list?) up2date what's planed Greetings -- Alexander N. Benner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG: - if you have problems that seem to be due to kernel bugs, [...] then the second best thing is to mail them to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Bill Gates: Windos contains no bugs that the majority of users want fixed.
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 02:12:29AM +0100, Christian Weisgerber wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hello Christian One question: Is it right, that you search for a Linux Distribution for your 'Tagungs-CD'. Last year it was suse, the year befor redhat. Right? This year, debian? Grisu -- Michael Bramer - a Debian Certified Linux Developerhttp://www.debian.org PGP: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Linux Sysadmin -- Use Debian Linux The Box said 'Windows NT or better', so I installed Debian Linux pgpVC38sk3pIv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 02:00:02AM +0100, Christian Weisgerber wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Federico Di Gregorio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking about being there (I'll come from italy). If you find something, Wichert, can you please let me know... I CAN'T read german (hope conference language will be english, at least in part). The conference language will be German. In particular, all presentations will be in German. Sorry. I'm not entirely happy with this, but the bulk of the target audience are unsophisticated users who would be discouraged by English (even if they wouldn't admit it). It's a trade-off; we would probably not be able to attract more people from throughout Europe than we would lose from the nearby 100km radius. Feedback to the contrary will be given due consideration for LinuxTag 2000. ;-) OK. Of course you can talk to the various exhibitors in English, and the mentioned Debian BOF/developers meeting could be done in English, too. That's fine. If we gather enough english-speaking-developers german won't be a problem (just to know, how do you say beer in german?) Let's see there... Ciao, Federico -- Federico Di Gregorio | / mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian developer! | / -1http://pcamb6.irfmn.mnegri.it/~fog *-=$ ;-P TeX Winzard? |/http://www.debian.org
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 02:22:14AM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: Federico Di Gregorio wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 03:54:55PM +0100, Christian Weisgerber wrote: Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: End of June.. sounds like I'll be able to be there. Does anyone know any cheap places to stay for a couple of days in the neighborhood? I am thinking about being there (I'll come from italy). If you find something, Wichert, can you please let me know... I CAN'T read german (hope conference language will be english, at least in part). Errr, you'd better wait for the German Linux Kongress then which is a real conference, with talks held in english. As far as I remember the Linuxtag is an exhibition with some talks for users (contrary to the conference which is meant for developers or both). I know I will be free for the end of june (LinuxTag) but I am not sure about the Linux Kongress... one goes where he can... Ciao, Federico -- Federico Di Gregorio | / mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian developer! | / -1http://pcamb6.irfmn.mnegri.it/~fog *-=$ ;-P TeX Winzard? |/http://www.debian.org
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
FDG == Federico Di Gregorio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FDG That's fine. If we gather enough english-speaking-developers FDG german won't be a problem (just to know, how do you say beer in FDG german?) It is Bier, spoken nearly like the english word beer. But if you ask for a beer, you will be asked what kind of beer you want :-) I have to check for the date of my exams, but if it is possible, I will join as well. Does it make sense to open a seperate mailinglist to coordinate and to move the traffic away from -devel? I can host one. Ciao, Martin
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 11:29:40PM +0100, Gregor Hoffleit wrote: Christian Weisgerber wrote: Because we, the organizers of LinuxTag '99, would like to invite the Debian project to set up a booth at this year's event. Several major Linux distributions will be there: SuSE, DLD, representatives for Red Hat, etc. Last year quite a few visitors expressed their disap- pointment about Debian's absence. If time permits, I'd like to attend and help with a Debian booth. Kaiserslautern is just a stone throw away, still I didn't manage to attend last year. Are there any other volunteers that would like to help setting up a booth there ? Yes, but also only if time permits. I could also provide one to two beds in Heidelberg (the city a stone throw away) for fellow developers. Hopefully I`ll get my parents car to get to Kaiserslautern without problems. Thimo -- Thimo Neubauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 frozen! See http://www.debian.org/ for details pgpWoDbwZTtae.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 11:29:40PM +0100, Gregor Hoffleit wrote: Christian Weisgerber wrote: Because we, the organizers of LinuxTag '99, would like to invite the Debian project to set up a booth at this year's event. Several major Linux distributions will be there: SuSE, DLD, representatives for Red Hat, etc. Last year quite a few visitors expressed their disap- pointment about Debian's absence. If time permits, I'd like to attend and help with a Debian booth. Kaiserslautern is just a stone throw away, still I didn't manage to attend last year. Are there any other volunteers that would like to help setting up a booth there ? I was on the LinuxTag'98. It was fun, nice and so on. If I have time, I can help on the LinuxTag'99. But I must check first the calendar. Grisu -- Michael Bramer - a Debian Certified Linux Developerhttp://www.debian.org PGP: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Linux Sysadmin -- Use Debian Linux Now let me explain why this makes intuitive sense. --- Prof. Larry Wasserman pgpZviXQZ4vzr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
Previously Christian Weisgerber wrote: The largest German Linux user show. In fact, it is probably the largest Linux event in Europe. (If there is a larger one, we haven't heard of it.) Last year there were an estimated 1500 visitors. URL:http://www.linuxtag.org/. End of June.. sounds like I'll be able to be there. Does anyone know any cheap places to stay for a couple of days in the neighborhood? If possible it might be nice to organise a couple of things like a meeting for Debian developers and a BOF about Debian maintainership. Oh, and the obligatory PGP-signing session of course :) Wichert. -- == This combination of bytes forms a message written to you by Wichert Akkerman. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~wichert/ pgpFcA4ZLguIp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: End of June.. sounds like I'll be able to be there. Does anyone know any cheap places to stay for a couple of days in the neighborhood? Check out URL:http://www.linuxtag.org/hotels.html. (Wichert, I trust you can read German?) If possible it might be nice to organise a couple of things like a meeting for Debian developers and a BOF about Debian maintainership. Oh, and the obligatory PGP-signing session of course :) No problem. We're open to suggestions. -- Christian naddy Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 03:54:55PM +0100, Christian Weisgerber wrote: Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: End of June.. sounds like I'll be able to be there. Does anyone know any cheap places to stay for a couple of days in the neighborhood? I am thinking about being there (I'll come from italy). If you find something, Wichert, can you please let me know... I CAN'T read german (hope conference language will be english, at least in part). Check out URL:http://www.linuxtag.org/hotels.html. (Wichert, I trust you can read German?) If possible it might be nice to organise a couple of things like a meeting for Debian developers and a BOF about Debian maintainership. Oh, and the obligatory PGP-signing session of course :) Here I am! No problem. We're open to suggestions. Ciao, Federico -- Federico Di Gregorio | / mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian developer! | / -1http://pcamb6.irfmn.mnegri.it/~fog *-=$ ;-P TeX Winzard? |/http://www.debian.org
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
Hi, 26 and 27 of june is a weekend, right? I'd love to meet some developer IRL. I could lend you a helping hand (some sort of go-and-get-me) during the event, but no organising. End of June.. sounds like I'll be able to be there. Does anyone know any cheap places to stay for a couple of days in the neighborhood? There is a youth hostel about 15km away. Check http://www.djh.de/herbergsverzeichnis/herbergen/6/67691.html 21.- (which currency? Euro or DM?) for bed and breakfast. Does one need to be member of an association to get a bed there? If possible it might be nice to organise a couple of things like a meeting for Debian developers and a BOF about Debian maintainership. Oh, and the obligatory PGP-signing session of course :) Of course! Regards, Philipp
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 10:32:03PM +0100, Christian Weisgerber wrote: What's this LinuxTag thing? The largest German Linux user show. When and where? June 26/27, 1999. University of Kaiserslautern, Germany. I think I can come, too. It's a weekend which is nice. I hope the youthhostel has enough beds for everyone. Debianers, can we organize us a bit? thanks for the invitation! Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 04:35:22PM +0100, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 03:54:55PM +0100, Christian Weisgerber wrote: Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: End of June.. sounds like I'll be able to be there. Does anyone know any cheap places to stay for a couple of days in the neighborhood? I am thinking about being there (I'll come from italy). If you find something, Wichert, can you please let me know... I CAN'T read german (hope conference language will be english, at least in part). No. All is in german. No part is in english. sorry. Grisu -- Michael Bramer - a Debian Certified Linux Developerhttp://www.debian.org PGP: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Linux Sysadmin -- Use Debian Linux The Box said 'Windows NT or better', so I installed Debian Linux pgpqoFGfVF2tH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
What's this LinuxTag thing? The largest German Linux user show. In fact, it is probably the largest Linux event in Europe. (If there is a larger one, we haven't heard of it.) Last year there were an estimated 1500 visitors. URL:http://www.linuxtag.org/. When and where? June 26/27, 1999. University of Kaiserslautern, Germany. Why is this idiot spamming the debian-devel list? Because we, the organizers of LinuxTag '99, would like to invite the Debian project to set up a booth at this year's event. Several major Linux distributions will be there: SuSE, DLD, representatives for Red Hat, etc. Last year quite a few visitors expressed their disap- pointment about Debian's absence. What will it cost? LinuxTag is a non-profit event. There will be no charge for non-profit exhibitors such as Debian or KDE. Yes, the KDE crew will appear in strength and have a booth just like last year. You will have to pay your travel and hotel expenses yourselves, though. Who'll be there? LinuxTag is geared towards users. Students. Private folk. Small companies. People who actually want to get work done with a computer, many of whom have never seen a Linux box before. It's not a developer's event. Nevertheless, if last year's turnout is any indication, most well-known names of the German Linux scene will show up. I already mentioned KDE and the various commercial distributions. The Trolls will come down all the way from Norway. We would dearly love to have official Debian participation. Please drop me a note. Can I give a talk/submit a paper? Alas, all talks and accompanying papers will have to be in German. Actually, something on Debian (how to become a Debian developer, how to build a Debian package) would be very welcome. If you are interested and managed to miss our earlier CfPs, contact me ASAP. -- Christian naddy Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] See another pointless homepage at URL:http://home.pages.de/~naddy/.
Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?
Christian Weisgerber wrote: Because we, the organizers of LinuxTag '99, would like to invite the Debian project to set up a booth at this year's event. Several major Linux distributions will be there: SuSE, DLD, representatives for Red Hat, etc. Last year quite a few visitors expressed their disap- pointment about Debian's absence. If time permits, I'd like to attend and help with a Debian booth. Kaiserslautern is just a stone throw away, still I didn't manage to attend last year. Are there any other volunteers that would like to help setting up a booth there ? Gregor --- |Gregor Hoffleit Mathematisches Institut, Uni HD| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg, Germany | | (NeXTmail, MIME) (49)6221 54-5771fax 54-8312 |
