Re: Fwd: How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie and offer help?
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 10:26:26AM -0200, Yves Junqueira wrote: It may be much cleaner to include help links /etc/motd, adivising the user to read a hipothetical /usr/share/doc/linux-beginners/new-users, or enter a help-mode by typing a certain command. Or we could mimic FreeBSD behaviour: create a fortune-file with helpful tips for newbies, and add a line in the default initialization files (i.e., those in /etc/skel) for different shells that calls fortune for those tips. -- Lo-lan-do Home is where you have to wash the dishes. -- #debian-devel, Freenode, 2004-09-22 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie and offer help?
Wouter Verhelst wrote: Or we could mimic FreeBSD behaviour: create a fortune-file with helpful tips for newbies, and add a line in the default initialization files (i.e., those in /etc/skel) for different shells that calls fortune for those tips. You mean like fortunes-debian-hints[1]? Kind regards T. 1. http://packages.debian.org/fortunes-debian-hints -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie and offer help?
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 10:58:42AM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Wouter Verhelst wrote: Or we could mimic FreeBSD behaviour: create a fortune-file with helpful tips for newbies, and add a line in the default initialization files (i.e., those in /etc/skel) for different shells that calls fortune for those tips. You mean like fortunes-debian-hints[1]? Probably. So all that is left now is make sure it gets in the default .bashrc -- Lo-lan-do Home is where you have to wash the dishes. -- #debian-devel, Freenode, 2004-09-22 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie and offer help?
#include hallo.h * Thomas Viehmann [Thu, Oct 19 2006, 10:58:42AM]: Wouter Verhelst wrote: Or we could mimic FreeBSD behaviour: create a fortune-file with helpful tips for newbies, and add a line in the default initialization files (i.e., those in /etc/skel) for different shells that calls fortune for those tips. You mean like fortunes-debian-hints[1]? IMO that's a bit too advanced, too administrator/developer specific. I would prefer having a fortunes-newbie-hints which is mixed by fortune, eg. using 90% from newbie-hints and 10% from debian-hints. I would even change that during the runtime, eg. shifting the weights by one percent every day, from newbie-hints to debian-hints. Eduard. -- * Scorpi ist aus dem Amiga-Bereich eher Boards gewöhnt, die man nach dem Rausschrauben nur unter Umgehung physicher Gesetze wieder eingebaut bekommt. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie and offer help?
Em Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:26:26 -0200 Yves Junqueira [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: It may be much cleaner to include help links /etc/motd, adivising the user to read a hipothetical /usr/share/doc/linux-beginners/new-users, or enter a help-mode by typing a certain command. Much cleaner, but I think newbie users do not really care about command line. Those who care to learn will find one of the tutorials Jason mentioned. Either way, I think it would be a nice thing having motd point to some 'starter guide' tutorial. Here's a nice Progeny contribution that Osamu 'utnubued': http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/users-guide/users-guide.en.html It's not very translated, granted, but it could become =D See you, -- Gustavo Noronha Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ | http://kov.eti.br/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie and offer help?
Forwarding to the list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Yves Junqueira [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Oct 17, 2006 2:42 PM Subject: Re: How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie and offer help? To: Jason Spiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/17/06, Jason Spiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2006-10-17, Mario Iseli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could start together a project which does this shell scripts, I think it's not really a lot of work. Don't file a bug, first we can do a linuxnewbie program and someone (maybe myself) will build a debian package one day. It may be much cleaner to include help links /etc/motd, adivising the user to read a hipothetical /usr/share/doc/linux-beginners/new-users, or enter a help-mode by typing a certain command. -- Yves Junqueira [EMAIL PROTECTED] / nictuku [IRC] http://www.cetico.org -- Yves Junqueira [EMAIL PROTECTED] / nictuku [IRC] http://www.cetico.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
