Re: ITP: Biomail - automated medical searcher

2000-08-21 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Seth Cohn wrote:

 Author is excited about getting this packaged for Debian.
 Homepage is http://biomail.sourceforge.net
NIce news.  This saves me some work I wanted to do since I visited
the lession about BioMail on the conference in Bordeaux.  Go for it!

 I think this will go into contrib, since it uses PubMed's database,
 and it is pretty useless without access to their database.  The code itself
Hmmm, but you don't have to install this database on your own box!
You just access it via http, if I'm not completely wrong.
So what.  Accessing non-free databases in the net shouldn't exclude
a software from main in my opinion.  Files in contrib have a
Depends: foo-nonfree in their control file, but I think you won't
do a Depends: PubMed because there will be no PubMed package.

 I'm still waiting in the new maintainer queue, but I'm sure I can get this  
 uploaded via sponsorship.
I would sponsor the package.
 
Kind regards

 Andreas.




Re: ITP: Biomail - automated medical searcher

2000-08-21 Thread Mike Markley
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 09:56:04AM +0200, Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
spake forth:
 On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Seth Cohn wrote:
  I think this will go into contrib, since it uses PubMed's database,
  and it is pretty useless without access to their database.  The code itself
 Hmmm, but you don't have to install this database on your own box!
 You just access it via http, if I'm not completely wrong.
 So what.  Accessing non-free databases in the net shouldn't exclude
 a software from main in my opinion.  Files in contrib have a
 Depends: foo-nonfree in their control file, but I think you won't
 do a Depends: PubMed because there will be no PubMed package.

Personally I think it can go into main. If we have the client code, obviously a
pubmed-compatible free database can be written, right?

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Re: ITP: Biomail - automated medical searcher

2000-08-21 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Mike Markley wrote:

 Personally I think it can go into main. If we have the client code, obviously 
 a
 pubmed-compatible free database can be written, right?
I wonder if this
  a) is allowed
  b) would make sense.

I just think that a program that is used to access a database on a
certain server does not necessarily depends from this non-free software.
Your box runs perfectly well without any non-free software.
The normal access is via any web-browser.  I don't think that web-browsers
have to go to contrib just because you are able to access nop-free sites
with it.

Kind regards

Andreas.




Re: ITP: Biomail - automated medical searcher

2000-08-21 Thread Seth Cohn
  Author is excited about getting this packaged for Debian.
  Homepage is http://biomail.sourceforge.net
 NIce news.  This saves me some work I wanted to do since I visited
 the lession about BioMail on the conference in Bordeaux.  Go for it!
 
  I think this will go into contrib, since it uses PubMed's database,
  and it is pretty useless without access to their database.  The code itself
 Hmmm, but you don't have to install this database on your own box!
 You just access it via http, if I'm not completely wrong.

You are correct.  My error, since I didn't check the definition of
contrib.  So long as it's not a package, the dependance on the external
website is ok.  I thought any external dependances made it non-main.
But it's GPL, so it's DFSG compliant 100%.

Ok, it'l be in main then.  Are there plans to make the new science
subsection soon? This would fit in there nicely.

 I would sponsor the package.

thanks,

Seth




ITP: Biomail - automated medical searcher

2000-08-19 Thread Seth Cohn
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2000-08-19
Severity: important

 
Author is excited about getting this packaged for Debian.
Homepage is http://biomail.sourceforge.net
License is GPL
I think this will go into contrib, since it uses PubMed's database,
and it is pretty useless without access to their database.  The code itself
is free, and I think someone could easily modify this into doing many other
similar database searches.  Imagine if someone tweaked this to do searches
on common web sites, so it would email you anytime the topic you desired
was mentioned.

I'm still waiting in the new maintainer queue, but I'm sure I can get this  
uploaded via sponsorship.

   BioMail is a small web-based application for medical researchers,
   biologists, and anyone who wants to know the latest information about
   a disease or a biological phenomenon. It is written to automate
   searching for recent scientific papers in the PubMed Medline database.
   BioMail is free and will stay free.
   
   What does BioMail do?
   Periodically BioMail does a user-customized Medline search and sends
   all matching articles recently added to Medline to the users' e-mail
   address. HTML-formatted e-mails generated by BioMail can be used to
   view selected references in medline format (compatible with most
   reference manager programs).
   
   Why is BioMail helpful?
   If you use Medline, it may be hard to remember when you did your last
   search. Often you must scan titles you have already seen to be certain
   you didn't miss an important reference. BioMail will perform routine
   searches for you. This program alerts users to all new papers in their
   fields automatically. It also helps the user to 'refine' search
   patterns once and for all. There is no need to wonder: 'What was that
   great search pattern I used last Saturday?'. All patterns are safe in
   the database and can be accessed, tuned, or deleted any time.
   
   It is also useful for countries where access to the Internet is not
   yet widely available. If a person has a permanent e-mail address, but
   only sporadic www access, she/he only needs to fill out a BioMail form
   once and then will receive new references from Medline continually.
   License
   
   It is released under GNU GPL license. This means it can be freely
   used, distributed, modified and redistributed as a new application, or
   it can even be sold for money, as long as the original or modified
   source codes remain freely available (and a little respect to the
   author is shown).
 
  Requirements
   
   BioMail was written in Perl for Linux. It was also checked under San
   Solaris7, Irix 6.5 (on SGI), Tru64 Unix 4.OE (on Digital alpha), and
   should be fine for other Unix OSes.
   
   BioMail requires a standard Perl distribution and two additional Perl
   modules from CPAN -- LWP::Simple and Mail::Mailer.
   
   Code by Dmitry Mozzherin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])