Re: Bug#96102: ITP: serpento -- dictd server written in python
On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 12:24:56PM +0200, I wrote: On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 09:19:29AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Radovan Garabik | Can it be run from inetd? I'm really dying for a dict server that can be | | More or less, yes, it can, but currently it is a bit unusable | since it takes forever to start (it has to parse the index file(s), | and parsing is written in python - rewritting it in C is on my TODO list) Why not just using cPickle and smart caching? It's pretty fast, ime. well, that is a _really_ good idea, shame it did not occur to me :-) I am going to experiment with it a bit And it's done - using cPickle cut down startup time from 15 seconds to about 4 sec. Then I changed initialization to parse/unpickle index files only when the database is accessed for the first time, and startup time went down to about 1 second for biggest dictionary (webster). All on PIII 600 MHz with plenty of memory (i.e. all necessary files were already in buffer cache) Package is in incoming, you have to set up manually inetd.conf if you want to run it from inetd (this will be improved later) Also, it includes its own dictdconfig now, so automatic configuration to include all installed databases should work. -- --- | Radovan Garabik http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/ | | __..--^^^--..__garabik @ melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk | --- Antivirus alert: file .signature infected by signature virus. Hi! I'm a signature virus! Copy me into your signature file to help me spread!
Re: Bug#96102: ITP: serpento -- dictd server written in python
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 09:19:29AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Radovan Garabik | Can it be run from inetd? I'm really dying for a dict server that can be | | More or less, yes, it can, but currently it is a bit unusable | since it takes forever to start (it has to parse the index file(s), | and parsing is written in python - rewritting it in C is on my TODO list) Why not just using cPickle and smart caching? It's pretty fast, ime. well, that is a _really_ good idea, shame it did not occur to me :-) I am going to experiment with it a bit -- --- | Radovan Garabik http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/ | | __..--^^^--..__garabik @ melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk | --- Antivirus alert: file .signature infected by signature virus. Hi! I'm a signature virus! Copy me into your signature file to help me spread!
Re: Bug#96102: ITP: serpento -- dictd server written in python
* Radovan Garabik | Can it be run from inetd? I'm really dying for a dict server that can be | | More or less, yes, it can, but currently it is a bit unusable | since it takes forever to start (it has to parse the index file(s), | and parsing is written in python - rewritting it in C is on my TODO list) Why not just using cPickle and smart caching? It's pretty fast, ime. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.
Re: ITP: serpento -- dictd server written in python
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 02:17:40PM -0500, David Starner wrote: On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 09:04:29PM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist serpento is a dict (RFC 2229) server written in python. I am the author, package is already ready and being duploaded. Cool. The description will mention the differences between it and dictd, won't it? It is all in README basically, it is.. uhm.. different :-) License: GPL, with the addition: It can be linked with whatever you want, without any restrictions. (so that I can have a module in C there.. sigh) There's much cleaner ways of doing this, if you just want to link with one module. If you send a more detailed description to debian-legal, I'm sure we can give advice. If it's just Python, I'd say with the exception that it can be linked with Python. The LGPL is about the same as your current license, but a lot clearer. I know, I meant this as a stopgap until the licensing issues with python are resolved (hopefully with python2.1) On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 03:12:57PM -0500, David Starner wrote: Also, does it use /var/lib/dictd/db.list or /etc/dictd.conf? If it None. Unfortunately, serpento uses different sort order for .index files, (not to mention that it has completely different configuration file) so plain old dict-* packages are unusable as installed. Script to create index files for serpento is included, but (currently) has to be run manually. doesn't, then some sort of install-dict-dictionary needs to be made and all the dict-* packages made to use it, or serpento needs to be fixed to use it. Yes, I plan to add automatic conversion of index files and some kind of adding the existing databases to the configuration file, but so far I have no good idea on how to do it the best way. (perhaps divert dictdconfig... or conflict with dictd and provide own dictdconfig(8) - in fact, serpento clashes with dictd if you do leave the default ports the same, so a conflict would probably be justified anyway) -- --- | Radovan Garabik http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/ | | __..--^^^--..__garabik @ melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk | --- Antivirus alert: file .signature infected by signature virus. Hi! I'm a signature virus! Copy me into your signature file to help me spread!
Re: Bug#96102: ITP: serpento -- dictd server written in python
Radovan Garabik wrote: serpento is a dict (RFC 2229) server written in python. Can it be run from inetd? I'm really dying for a dict server that can be run from inetd, since I run dict about 3 times a week, and my laptop is typically offline and has onlt 64mb core. -- see shy jo
Re: Bug#96102: ITP: serpento -- dictd server written in python
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 12:42:35AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Radovan Garabik wrote: serpento is a dict (RFC 2229) server written in python. Can it be run from inetd? I'm really dying for a dict server that can be More or less, yes, it can, but currently it is a bit unusable since it takes forever to start (it has to parse the index file(s), and parsing is written in python - rewritting it in C is on my TODO list) On my 600MHz PIII it takes about 15 seconds, with about 50 index files (20MB total size) in /usr/share/dictd run from inetd, since I run dict about 3 times a week, and my laptop is typically offline and has onlt 64mb core. -- --- | Radovan Garabik http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/ | | __..--^^^--..__garabik @ melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk | --- Antivirus alert: file .signature infected by signature virus. Hi! I'm a signature virus! Copy me into your signature file to help me spread!
ITP: serpento -- dictd server written in python
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist serpento is a dict (RFC 2229) server written in python. I am the author, package is already ready and being duploaded. License: GPL, with the addition: It can be linked with whatever you want, without any restrictions. (so that I can have a module in C there.. sigh) -- --- | Radovan Garabik http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/ | | __..--^^^--..__garabik @ melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk | --- Antivirus alert: file .signature infected by signature virus. Hi! I'm a signature virus! Copy me into your signature file to help me spread!
Re: ITP: serpento -- dictd server written in python
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 09:04:29PM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist serpento is a dict (RFC 2229) server written in python. I am the author, package is already ready and being duploaded. Cool. The description will mention the differences between it and dictd, won't it? License: GPL, with the addition: It can be linked with whatever you want, without any restrictions. (so that I can have a module in C there.. sigh) There's much cleaner ways of doing this, if you just want to link with one module. If you send a more detailed description to debian-legal, I'm sure we can give advice. If it's just Python, I'd say with the exception that it can be linked with Python. The LGPL is about the same as your current license, but a lot clearer. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored. - Joseph_Greg
Re: ITP: serpento -- dictd server written in python
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 02:17:40PM -0500, David Starner wrote: On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 09:04:29PM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist serpento is a dict (RFC 2229) server written in python. I am the author, package is already ready and being duploaded. Cool. The description will mention the differences between it and dictd, won't it? Also, does it use /var/lib/dictd/db.list or /etc/dictd.conf? If it doesn't, then some sort of install-dict-dictionary needs to be made and all the dict-* packages made to use it, or serpento needs to be fixed to use it. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored. - Joseph_Greg
