Re: LWN subscription for Debian developers
On 01 Sep 2003 12:22:48 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 04:33:22PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Bdale Garbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello. Last October, I announced a group subscription to lwn.net for Debian developers, sponsored by HP. I've recently received numerous queries about whether this deal was still available, and/or whether HP intended to continue sponsoring the subscription. The answer to both questions is yes! What about NMs? Wait until you can drop the N, I guess. So I can have a LWN subscription in another 5 years or 10? You can pay the subscription and get one immediately, I should think. manoj -- I'm definitely not in Omaha! Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C
Re: LWN subscription for Debian developers
Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 04:33:22PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Bdale Garbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello. Last October, I announced a group subscription to lwn.net for Debian developers, sponsored by HP. I've recently received numerous queries about whether this deal was still available, and/or whether HP intended to continue sponsoring the subscription. The answer to both questions is yes! What about NMs? Wait until you can drop the N, I guess. So I can have a LWN subscription in another 5 years or 10? But lets not start another NM queue is stuck flame. MfG Goswin
Re: LWN subscription for Debian developers
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003, Dan Jacobson wrote: Bdale ... I announced a group subscription to lwn.net for Debian Bdale developers, sponsored by HP... Debian may be seen as supporting non-disclosure conditions / protected proprietary information / trade secrets / etc. whatever. You should be killfiled for life for that one if you are being serious. Look, we all appreciate people who like Debian so much to be this energetic about it as you are, but you really, really, really need to learn to think things out quite a bit before writing them. Especially when reporting bugs, I should add. Or, are you per chance, doing all this just to be funny? -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh
Re: LWN subscription for Debian developers
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 12:22:48PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 04:33:22PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: What about NMs? Wait until you can drop the N, I guess. So I can have a LWN subscription in another 5 years or 10? You can have one now, if you pay for it. One cannot honestly expect HP to pay for everyone who's on the NM queue; a line has to be drawn _somewhere_. If you're at the wrong side of it, tough. But lets not start another NM queue is stuck flame. Please. -- Wouter Verhelst Debian GNU/Linux -- http://www.debian.org Nederlandstalige Linux-documentatie -- http://nl.linux.org Stop breathing down my neck. My breathing is merely a simulation. So is my neck, stop it anyway! -- Voyager's EMH versus the Prometheus' EMH, stardate 51462. pgp6XOpnf8pMC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: LWN subscription for Debian developers
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 10:42:51AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sun, 31 Aug 2003, Dan Jacobson wrote: Bdale ... I announced a group subscription to lwn.net for Debian Bdale developers, sponsored by HP... Debian may be seen as supporting non-disclosure conditions / protected proprietary information / trade secrets / etc. whatever. You should be killfiled for life for that one if you are being serious. Damn, and people say *I'm* harsh. :) I sometimes think that I, as an atheist, take the concept of redemption more seriously than many Christians I've met. If we don't expect Mr. Jacobson to improve, he has less incentive to do so. -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian GNU/Linux | Ignorantia judicis est calamitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] | innocentis. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpimZnesqlT7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: LWN subscription for Debian developers
Dan Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bdale ... I announced a group subscription to lwn.net for Debian Bdale developers, sponsored by HP... Debian may be seen as supporting non-disclosure conditions / protected proprietary information / trade secrets / etc. whatever. What are you smoking? lwn.net makes articles available after one week, they are only trying to get some money from subscriptions. I don't see any relations to trade secrets and non-disclosure agreements, except if you see all subscription-based services that way. But that would also apply to people subscribing to newspapers, using the local library (certain services only available for residents in public libraries or university affiliates for academic libraries...) and tons of other stuff. Bdale If you are a Debian developer and want full LWN access, go to Bdale lwn.net and create an account for yourself (no money is Bdale required... But the Debian developer cannot disclose the information seen with non Debian developers. I don't think that is true. We cannot set up mirror sites, sure, but if I share this information with some friends, I don't see how this would violate anything. Lukas P.S.: I still would prefer lwn.net to be free. In fact, I would prefer to get my NY Times without paying for it, but unfortunately my wishes do not always come true...
Re: LWN subscription for Debian developers
Bdale Garbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello. Last October, I announced a group subscription to lwn.net for Debian developers, sponsored by HP. I've recently received numerous queries about whether this deal was still available, and/or whether HP intended to continue sponsoring the subscription. The answer to both questions is yes! What about NMs? MfG Goswin
Re: LWN subscription for Debian developers
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 04:33:22PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Bdale Garbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello. Last October, I announced a group subscription to lwn.net for Debian developers, sponsored by HP. I've recently received numerous queries about whether this deal was still available, and/or whether HP intended to continue sponsoring the subscription. The answer to both questions is yes! What about NMs? Wait until you can drop the N, I guess. -- Wouter Verhelst Debian GNU/Linux -- http://www.debian.org Nederlandstalige Linux-documentatie -- http://nl.linux.org Stop breathing down my neck. My breathing is merely a simulation. So is my neck, stop it anyway! -- Voyager's EMH versus the Prometheus' EMH, stardate 51462.
LWN subscription for Debian developers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello. Last October, I announced a group subscription to lwn.net for Debian developers, sponsored by HP. I've recently received numerous queries about whether this deal was still available, and/or whether HP intended to continue sponsoring the subscription. The answer to both questions is yes! If you are a Debian developer and want full LWN access, go to lwn.net and create an account for yourself (no money is required to create a user account). Then, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing your LWN account name. Sign this email with your key on the Debian keyring. Then, exercise patience. Eventually, I will process your request, and add you to the Debian Project group and send you an email acknowledgement. Until now, 195 Debian developers have taken advantage of this and are listed in the Debian Project group at LWN. If you don't know about LWN, here's what the FAQ on the lwn.net website has to say: LWN.net aims to be the premier news and information source for the free software community. We provide comprehensive coverage of development, legal, commercial, and security issues. The LWN.net Weekly Edition is our weekly summary of what has happened in the free software world; our front page offers up-to-the-minute coverage. Enjoy! Bdale -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQE/UNN5ZKfAp/LPAagRAoXtAJwJ7l6U7g+YR/FolBv/hbRTYUuU8ACfaWNB lUh3jplqvxTR7SRd1VHeOu4= =hXg4 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: LWN subscription for Debian developers
Bdale ... I announced a group subscription to lwn.net for Debian Bdale developers, sponsored by HP... Debian may be seen as supporting non-disclosure conditions / protected proprietary information / trade secrets / etc. whatever. Bdale If you are a Debian developer and want full LWN access, go to Bdale lwn.net and create an account for yourself (no money is Bdale required... But the Debian developer cannot disclose the information seen with non Debian developers.
Re: LWN subscription for Debian developers
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 05:42:06 +0800 Dan Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bdale ... I announced a group subscription to lwn.net for Debian Bdale developers, sponsored by HP... Debian may be seen as supporting non-disclosure conditions / protected proprietary information / trade secrets / etc. whatever. Bdale If you are a Debian developer and want full LWN access, go to Bdale lwn.net and create an account for yourself (no money is Bdale required... But the Debian developer cannot disclose the information seen with non Debian developers. Jealous? :) pgpKuaboT6Ya9.pgp Description: PGP signature
LWN subscription for Debian developers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello. Some of you noticed that the Linux Weekly News, aka lwn.net, changed to a subscription model for full access, and wondered if Debian developers could arrange some sort of group access. I'm pleased to report that the answer is yes! LWN offered to treat Debian developers as a group, and HP offered to fund Debian's subscription fee. My thanks to both for their continuing support of the Debian development community! Here's how it works. If you're a Debian developer and you want full LWN access, go to lwn.net and create an account for yourself. Then, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing your LWN account name. Sign this email with your key on the Debian keyring. Then, exercise patience. Eventually, I or a delegate will process your request, adding you to the Debian Project group at LWN using the account management interface at lwn.net. I need a volunteer or two to respond to requests from Debian developers for access. If you're a Debian developer with time, interest in helping, and a little tolerance for dealing with the web-based account management interface at lwn.net, please let me know. Thank you for your time. Bdale -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQE9up2cZKfAp/LPAagRAswzAJ9WfJwjzl3p7Rn6kBu+KYUX+BsUSgCaAz8/ lQY99Ksc5YA0OiwIfQ+Ma7A= =d/ix -END PGP SIGNATURE-
