Re: List of possible empty binary packages
On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 08:20:08PM +0100, Luca Falavigna wrote: I conducted an analysis to see if there are empty packages in the archive which are not metapackages or transitional ones, and then prepared a dd-list to show affected packages. Eya, thanks for this, very cool indeed. Is the code you used to detect this available somewhere? I wonder mainly how did you check if the packages are metapackages/transitional. If it is something you consider reliable, it would be worth to turn your code into a lintian check, so that we avoid in the future re-introducing this kind of bugs. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoie sempre uno zaino ...| ..: | Je dis tu à tous ceux que j'aime signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: List of possible empty binary packages
Stefano Zacchiroli ha scritto: Is the code you used to detect this available somewhere? I wonder mainly how did you check if the packages are metapackages/transitional. If it is something you consider reliable, it would be worth to turn your code into a lintian check, so that we avoid in the future re-introducing this kind of bugs. Well, code is located on lintian.debian.org/~dktrkranz/empty.sh, it's a very simple shell script which declares a package being empty if all of the following conditions are met: * package does not ship files outside of /usr/share/doc/$pkg * package does not have subdirectories in its /usr/share/doc dir * package does not have a blacklist word in its description: - meta - transition - dummy - dependency package - empty package - virtual package After that, I manually sorted resulting packages to remove notable false positives, so it's definitely not reliable enough to provide full automated reports yet, but I can work to define improved conditions. -- .''`. : :' : Luca Falavigna dktrkr...@debian.org `. `' `- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: List of possible empty binary packages
On So, Feb 07, 2010 at 20:20:08 (CET), Luca Falavigna wrote: Reinhard Tartler siret...@tauware.de byobu (U) I don't understand why this package is claimed to be empty: http://packages.debian.org/sid/all/byobu/filelist -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: List of possible empty binary packages
Reinhard Tartler siret...@debian.org (08/02/2010): I don't understand why this package is claimed to be empty: http://packages.debian.org/sid/all/byobu/filelist Because of: http://packages.debian.org/sid/all/byobu-extras/filelist Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: List of possible empty binary packages
On Mo, Feb 08, 2010 at 12:46:10 (CET), Cyril Brulebois wrote: Reinhard Tartler siret...@debian.org (08/02/2010): I don't understand why this package is claimed to be empty: http://packages.debian.org/sid/all/byobu/filelist Because of: http://packages.debian.org/sid/all/byobu-extras/filelist thanks, that's indeed correct. This is a transitional convenience package for supporting partial upgrades for squeeze systems only. It was never in lenny. Dustin, I think we can remove and should byobu-extras by now as there are already proper replaces on the byobu-extras in the main byobu package. -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: List of possible empty binary packages
Reinhard Tartler ha scritto: http://packages.debian.org/sid/all/byobu-extras/filelist thanks, that's indeed correct. This is a transitional convenience package for supporting partial upgrades for squeeze systems only. It was never in lenny. Thanks for the clarification! It wasn't excluded because it didn't match conditions and I've overlooked it during manual processing. -- .''`. : :' : Luca Falavigna dktrkr...@debian.org `. `' `- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
List of possible empty binary packages
Hello, I conducted an analysis to see if there are empty packages in the archive which are not metapackages or transitional ones, and then prepared a dd-list to show affected packages. Some packages have been removed from the original list as it was clearly stated in package descriptions they are empty by purpose, others have been manually removed being false positives. There could be more false positives, feel free to report inaccuracies to have a more precise picture for a potential MBF. Adam C. Powell scotch (U) Michael Ablassmeier a...@debian.org libapache-mod-chroot Ivanko B br...@yandex.ru mseide-msegui Christian Bac christian@it-sudparis.eu phpgroupware (U) Sebastien Bacher seb...@debian.org totem Mirco Bauer mee...@debian.org mono (U) Olivier Berger olivier.ber...@it-sudparis.eu phpgroupware Armin Berres armin+deb...@space-based.de kdeartwork (U) kdeedu (U) kdepim (U) Laurent Bigonville bi...@debian.org libchamplain (U) Fathi Boudra f...@debian.org kdeartwork (U) kdeedu (U) kdepim (U) mlt Emmanuel Bouthenot kol...@debian.org weechat Michael Casadevall mcasadev...@debian.org kdeartwork (U) Michael Casadevall sonicmcta...@gmail.com libxfcegui4 (U) Jesus Climent mo...@debian.org dspam (U) Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org libxmu (U) LI Daobing lidaob...@debian.org liblunar Debian Citadel Team pkg-citadel-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org citadel Debian DSPAM Maintainers pkg-dspam-m...@lists.alioth.debian.org dspam Debian GCC Maintainers debian-...@lists.debian.org gcc-4.1 Debian GNOME Maintainers pkg-gnome-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org libchamplain (U) totem (U) Debian Haskell Group pkg-haskell-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org haskell-hsql-mysql Debian Mono Group pkg-mono-gr...@lists.alioth.debian.org mono mono-uia Debian Pkg-e Team pkg-e-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org e17 Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org kdeartwork kdebindings kdeedu kdepim Debian Request Tracker Group pkg-request-tracker-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org request-tracker3.8 Debian Science Team debian-science-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org code-saturne Debian Scientific Computing Team pkg-scicomp-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org fenics scotch suitesparse-metis Debian X Strike Force debia...@lists.debian.org libxmu Debian Xfce Maintainers pkg-xfce-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org libxfcegui4 Debian Xiph.org Maintainers pkg-xiph-ma...@lists.alioth.debian.org libfishsound Eric Dorland e...@debian.org libp11 Sebastian Dröge sl...@debian.org mono (U) totem (U) vala (U) John Francesco Ferlito jo...@inodes.org libfishsound (U) Freevo Debian Dream Team pkg-freevo-ma...@lists.alioth.debian.org freevo Wilfried Goesgens w.goesg...@outgesourced.org citadel (U) Stephen Gran sg...@debian.org hdparm Debian QA Group packa...@qa.debian.org avifile GRUB Maintainers pkg-grub-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org grub2 Christoph Haas h...@debian.org dspam (U) Dominic Hargreaves d...@earth.li request-tracker3.8 (U) Jacob Helwig ja...@technosorcery.net request-tracker3.8 (U) Simon Huggins hug...@earth.li libxfcegui4 (U) Mario Iseli ad...@marioiseli.com libconfig-inetd-perl IV hazel...@debian.org scotch (U) Kurt B. Kaiser k...@shore.net dspam (U) Dustin Kirkland kirkl...@ubuntu.com byobu Matthias Klose d...@debian.org gcc-4.1 (U) Ivan Kohler ivan-deb...@420.am request-tracker3.8 (U) Aurelien Labrosse aurelien.labro...@free.fr dspam (U) Sylvestre Ledru sylves...@debian.org code-saturne (U) Georg W. Leonhardt leonha...@geole.info freevo (U) Martin Loschwitz madk...@debian.org libxfcegui4 (U) Ola Lundqvist o...@debian.org dpsyco harden Marc-Andre Lureau marcandre.lur...@gmail.com vala (U) Jan Lübbe jlue...@debian.org e17 (U) Maintainers of Vala packages pkg-vala-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org vala Jordi Mallach jo...@debian.org grub2 (U) Torsten Marek shlo...@debian.org kdebindings (U) TSUCHIYA Masatoshi tsuch...@namazu.org mecab-ipadic mecab-jumandic Patrick Matthäi pmatth...@debian.org mlt (U) Alastair McKinstry mckins...@debian.org emoslib A Mennucc1 mennu...@debian.org freevo (U) Michael Meskes mes...@debian.org citadel (U) kdepim (U) Robert Millan rmh.deb...@aybabtu.com grub2 (U) Loic Minier l...@dooz.org vala (U) Matthijs Mohlmann matth...@cacholong.nl dspam (U) Emilio Pozuelo Monfort po...@debian.org totem (U) Daniel Rus Morales rus.dan...@gmail.com suitesparse-metis (U) Daigo Moriwaki da...@debian.org google-perftools ruby1.9 (U) Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org totem (U) Toni Mueller t...@debian.org request-tracker3.8 (U) David Nusinow dnusi...@debian.org libxmu (U) Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net ruby1.9 (U) Xavier Oswald x.osw...@free.fr e17 (U) David Palacio
Re: List of possible empty binary packages
Il giorno Sun, 7 Feb 2010 20:20:08 +0100 Luca Falavigna dktrkr...@debian.org ha scritto: I conducted an analysis to see if there are empty packages in the archive which are not metapackages or transitional ones, and then prepared a dd-list to show affected packages. To match source packages with affected binaries, you can look at the list I prepared at http://people.debian.org/~dktrkranz/empty_packages Regards, -- .''`. : :' : Luca Falavigna dktrkr...@debian.org `. `' `- signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: List of possible empty binary packages
On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 08:20:08PM +0100, Luca Falavigna wrote: Hello, I conducted an analysis to see if there are empty packages in the archive which are not metapackages or transitional ones, and then prepared a dd-list to show affected packages. Some packages have been removed from the original list as it was clearly stated in package descriptions they are empty by purpose, others have been manually removed being false positives. There could be more false positives, feel free to report inaccuracies to have a more precise picture for a potential MBF. ... Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org kdeartwork kdebindings kdeedu kdepim These are all metapackages. BTW, I wonder why you listed only those from KDE and not for example kdegames that is similar (KDE metapackage installing all the provided apps). Ana -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: List of possible empty binary packages
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 20:20:08 +0100, Luca Falavigna wrote: Debian X Strike Force debia...@lists.debian.org libxmu debian/rules does: dh_strip -Nlibxmu6 -Nlibxmuu1 dh_strip -plibxmu6 --dbg-package=libxmu6-dbg dh_strip -plibxmuu1 --dbg-package=libxmuu1-dbg and the debug symbols for both libxmu6 and libxmuu1 end up in libxmu6-dbg. Probably because DH_OPTIONS is set to -s, and so the -p is useless. Thanks for the report… Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: List of possible empty binary packages
On 07/02/2010 20:20, Luca Falavigna wrote: Debian Xfce Maintainers pkg-xfce-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org libxfcegui4 Aha, thought that dh7 tiny.rules would take care of the --dbg-package arg to dh_strip for me. Thanks for noticing, will fix that soon. Cheers, -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: List of possible empty binary packages
On 07/02/10 21:30, Ana Guerrero wrote: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org kdeartwork kdebindings kdeedu kdepim These are all metapackages. BTW, I wonder why you listed only those from KDE and not for example kdegames that is similar (KDE metapackage installing all the provided apps). Those are the source packages. The buggy ones are not those, but others (indi for kdeedu, kdeartwork-theme-window for kdeartwork...). See http://people.debian.org/~dktrkranz/empty_packages to find the affected binary packages. Emilio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org