Re: Moving GFDL documentation to non-free

2006-05-20 Thread Dan Jacobson
W The usual package name is original package name-doc. Just to be sure,
W you may want to check the changelogs of the packages with missing docs,
W however.
$ w3m -dump http://packages.debian.org/unstable/doc/|fgrep '[non-free]'
finds some. I suppose some aren't ready yet, like tar. At least it
still has man pages, though no more info pages. I wish there was a
more systematic way than digging thru changelogs. Something one
could use in a script.


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Re: Moving GFDL documentation to non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 10:20:17AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
 Hi. I'm just a lowly user with a bandwidth problem.
 Certainly was a shock to get back from town to find the documentation
 gone from the debs I brought back.
 However, I am to make one last trip to town so it's my one shot chance
 to download the new additional debs where that documentation now lies.
 I need to know the names of those additional packages though, so I can
 tell dpkg --set-selections.

The usual package name is original package name-doc. Just to be sure,
you may want to check the changelogs of the packages with missing docs,
however.

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Re: Moving GFDL documentation to non-free

2006-05-16 Thread Dan Jacobson
Hi. I'm just a lowly user with a bandwidth problem.
Certainly was a shock to get back from town to find the documentation
gone from the debs I brought back.
However, I am to make one last trip to town so it's my one shot chance
to download the new additional debs where that documentation now lies.
I need to know the names of those additional packages though, so I can
tell dpkg --set-selections.


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Re: Moving GFDL documentation to non-free

2006-03-25 Thread JérÎme Marant
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I was told unequivocally that just shipping the whole tarball
  for make, which is 1.5MB large, would not be acceptable. I ended up

I was suspecting this.

  having to create two new .orig.tar.gz files, with minimal overlap in
  contents, (remove docs from one, and the sources from the other, and
  leave some build infrastructure in both) and uploading that.

OK.  It sounds sane to me.

 I also called these source packages make-dfsg and
  make-doc-non-dfsg, but I think others have let the package in main be
  still called foo (despite removing non-free bits from it), and just
  append .dfsg to the upstream version number. I was not comfortable
  with that, but your mileage may vary.

Well, appending .dfsg to the upstream version would probably be
less confusing for users, but as you said YMMV.

Thank you very much for your feedback.

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Re: Moving GFDL documentation to non-free

2006-03-25 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10604 March 1977, Jérôme Marant wrote:

 The simplest way I can see is to take the pristine tarball and rename
 to foo-non-free of foo-non-dfsg, and to just install what was removed
 from the modified tarball in main. However, the Emacs tarball is
 18 megs big so I'm not sure ftp masters would allow it in the archive.

Rebuild the tarball. You need to do that anyways for main, so build a
new one for non-free too, containing only the rest and what may be
needed to built it.
Dont rename the source package for main too. Was allowed for make, but
its better to not rename.

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Re: Moving GFDL documentation to non-free

2006-03-25 Thread Jérôme Marant
Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 10604 March 1977, Jérôme Marant wrote:

 The simplest way I can see is to take the pristine tarball and rename
 to foo-non-free of foo-non-dfsg, and to just install what was removed
 from the modified tarball in main. However, the Emacs tarball is
 18 megs big so I'm not sure ftp masters would allow it in the archive.

 Rebuild the tarball. You need to do that anyways for main, so build a
 new one for non-free too, containing only the rest and what may be
 needed to built it.
 Dont rename the source package for main too. Was allowed for make, but
 its better to not rename.

I intend to do that.  Thanks.

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Moving GFDL documentation to non-free

2006-03-24 Thread Jérôme Marant
Hi,

The Emacs documentation is going to be moved to non-free since
it is GFDLed with invariant sections.

I'd like know how packagers who have the same problem usually
handle this, especially the non-free package.

The simplest way I can see is to take the pristine tarball and rename
to foo-non-free of foo-non-dfsg, and to just install what was removed
from the modified tarball in main. However, the Emacs tarball is
18 megs big so I'm not sure ftp masters would allow it in the archive.

Is the common trend doing this, or do packagers just create custom
tarballs by leaving only what's necessary plus a minimal custom build
infrastructure?

Thanks.

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Re: Moving GFDL documentation to non-free

2006-03-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 24 Mar 2006, Jérôme Marant told this:

 Hi,

 The Emacs documentation is going to be moved to non-free since
 it is GFDLed with invariant sections.

 I'd like know how packagers who have the same problem usually
 handle this, especially the non-free package.

 The simplest way I can see is to take the pristine tarball and
 rename to foo-non-free of foo-non-dfsg, and to just install what was
 removed from the modified tarball in main. However, the Emacs
 tarball is 18 megs big so I'm not sure ftp masters would allow it in
 the archive.

 Is the common trend doing this, or do packagers just create custom
 tarballs by leaving only what's necessary plus a minimal custom
 build infrastructure?


I was told unequivocally that just shipping the whole tarball
 for make, which is 1.5MB large, would not be acceptable. I ended up
 having to create two new .orig.tar.gz files, with minimal overlap in
 contents, (remove docs from one, and the sources from the other, and
 leave some build infrastructure in both) and uploading that.

I also called these source packages make-dfsg and
 make-doc-non-dfsg, but I think others have let the package in main be
 still called foo (despite removing non-free bits from it), and just
 append .dfsg to the upstream version number. I was not comfortable
 with that, but your mileage may vary.

manoj
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