Re: New lintian warning: mailing-list-obsolete-in-debian-infrastructure Debian Med Packaging Team

2020-04-24 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 10:43:43AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 24.04.20 um 10:12 schrieb Phil Wyett:
> > See: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=958182
> 
> Could we have a official statement whether alioth-lists.debian.net is
> going away (anytime soon) or not? I hope not, fwiw.

Speaking only for myself (as the admin team haven't had a chance
to discuss this issue yet) I can't see us shutting down
alioth-lists.debian.net any time soon. I do acknowledge that
we should be providing some sort of statement given that we said
the situation would be reviewed after a release cycle and I will
try and coordinate that soon.

>From a practical point of view I'd say its future as long as
Mailman 2 is supported in Debian (ie until the end of buster's
support) is pretty secure. We need to discuss whether we want to
migrate to mailman 3 (or something else) but I see no reason in
principle that the service shouldn't stay as long as it has a purpose.

As others have said I don't think there is any need to change email
addresses in maintainer fields at the this stage, so I don't think
this lintian warning is appropriate.

Cheers
Dominic (one of the alioth-lists admins)



Re: New lintian warning: mailing-list-obsolete-in-debian-infrastructure Debian Med Packaging Team

2020-04-24 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 10:43:43AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 24.04.20 um 10:12 schrieb Phil Wyett:
> > See: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=958182
> 
> Could we have a official statement whether alioth-lists.debian.net is
> going away (anytime soon) or not? I hope not, fwiw.

As I understood its not going away.  I understood the lintian warning
that its jist an issue to mention the old alioth list address requesting
a rename to alioth-lists.debian.net.  My point is that I do not want
to replace the old alioth list name by the new one which seems to me
simply a cosmetical change for no good use - at least if the maintainer
address is used in applications that are dealing with sets of packages
that should have all the same maintainer.

Kind regards

  Andreas.

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Re: New lintian warning: mailing-list-obsolete-in-debian-infrastructure Debian Med Packaging Team

2020-04-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 24.04.20 um 10:12 schrieb Phil Wyett:
> See: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=958182

Could we have a official statement whether alioth-lists.debian.net is
going away (anytime soon) or not? I hope not, fwiw.

Michael



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Re: New lintian warning: mailing-list-obsolete-in-debian-infrastructure Debian Med Packaging Team

2020-04-24 Thread Phil Wyett
On Fri, 2020-04-24 at 09:56 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> today I've seen the first time this new lintian warning:
> 
>    mailing-list-obsolete-in-debian-infrastructure Debian Med Packaging
> Team 
> 
> I wonder whether we could this set from severity Warning to Pedandic.
> The point is that this address works not only as maintainer but rather
> as key in several infrastrutural use case like database queries etc.
> 
> The only reason that would convince me that a change is needed would
> be
> that the redirect to alioth-lists.debian.net would not work any more
> at
> some foreseable point of time.  So please note:  I would not mind
> about
> automatically replacing that address with something non-obsolete since
> we try to do some turnover of all (about 1000) Debian Med packages per
> release.  But once we start this change several tools will stop
> working
> reliably.  This is to much effort for something that looks cosmetical
> in
> my eyes.  So if you insist that this should be at severity warning
> I'll
> probably rather add a lintian override automatically for all our
> packages rather than automatically change the maintainer address.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
>Andreas.
> 

Hi,

See: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=958182

Regards

Phil

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New lintian warning: mailing-list-obsolete-in-debian-infrastructure Debian Med Packaging Team

2020-04-24 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi,

today I've seen the first time this new lintian warning:

   mailing-list-obsolete-in-debian-infrastructure Debian Med Packaging Team 


I wonder whether we could this set from severity Warning to Pedandic.
The point is that this address works not only as maintainer but rather
as key in several infrastrutural use case like database queries etc.

The only reason that would convince me that a change is needed would be
that the redirect to alioth-lists.debian.net would not work any more at
some foreseable point of time.  So please note:  I would not mind about
automatically replacing that address with something non-obsolete since
we try to do some turnover of all (about 1000) Debian Med packages per
release.  But once we start this change several tools will stop working
reliably.  This is to much effort for something that looks cosmetical in
my eyes.  So if you insist that this should be at severity warning I'll
probably rather add a lintian override automatically for all our
packages rather than automatically change the maintainer address.

Kind regards

   Andreas.

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