Re: New release of ifupdown planned

2003-09-01 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 14:14:13 +1000, Anthony Towns
aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote:
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 09:36:31PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
 Since the maintainer of ifupdown doesn't answer repeated attempts
 to contact him by e-mail, I suppose it is appropriate to report
 here that there is a group of people working on a new ifupdown
 release.  

The term is an ifupdown NMU.

Of course. This NMU is prepared by the people who participated in the
last four NMUs of ifupdown, and they do not intend to break procedure
this time.

Greetings
Marc

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Re: New release of ifupdown planned

2003-08-28 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 09:36:31PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
 Since the maintainer of ifupdown doesn't answer repeated attempts
 to contact him by e-mail, I suppose it is appropriate to report
 here that there is a group of people working on a new ifupdown
 release.  

The term is an ifupdown NMU.

You certainly should not be considering hijacking it.

Cheers,
aj

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Re: New release of ifupdown planned

2003-08-28 Thread Joshua Kwan
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 02:14:13PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
 The term is an ifupdown NMU.

For crying out loud, it's been NMUed four times in a row already..

 You certainly should not be considering hijacking it.

Why not? Do you have a new maintainer release which acknowledges NMUs,
incorporates some fixes you have accumulated for the vast number of bugs
that this package has? Is this a call for comaintenance (which I would
definitely recommend for a package of this importance?)

If not, maybe you should pass it on.

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Re: New release of ifupdown planned

2003-08-28 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 09:50:12PM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 02:14:13PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
  The term is an ifupdown NMU.
 For crying out loud, it's been NMUed four times in a row already..

Yes, all of which were checked over by me first, and done with approval.

  You certainly should not be considering hijacking it.
 Why not? 

Because it's not remotely necessary or appropriate.

Cheers,
aj

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Re: New release of ifupdown planned

2003-08-28 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 02:14:13PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 09:36:31PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
  Since the maintainer of ifupdown doesn't answer repeated attempts
  to contact him by e-mail, I suppose it is appropriate to report
  here that there is a group of people working on a new ifupdown
  release.  
 
 The term is an ifupdown NMU.
 
 You certainly should not be considering hijacking it.

Why not?  *If* you're acting just like a vanished maintainer with
respect to that package, but are prominently visible elsewhere in the
Project, what does that tell us about your relative level of commitment
to ifupdown?

Is that level of commitment to the package measurably higher or lower
than that of a person who is not active in the project at all?  If
higher, how do we objectively measure that?

Guy Maor said he didn't need people taking over his packages either, and
then promptly went back to completel ignoring them and being utterly
inactive in the Project.  They've since been hijacked, and are
maintained by people who appear to actually give a damn.

Whether a package has been orphaned is not something that can be
determined simply from examining its Maintainer: field.

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Re: New release of ifupdown planned

2003-08-28 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Thomas Hood ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 The ifupdown package hasn't been touched by its maintainer for over
 two years and it is about time some of its problems were addressed.
 
 Since the maintainer of ifupdown doesn't answer repeated attempts
 to contact him by e-mail, I suppose it is appropriate to report
 here that there is a group of people working on a new ifupdown
 release.  Please contact me if you are interested or would like to
 help.  We would like to have a release ready well before the

As bug reporter and translator, I'm interested in getting 200786
fixed. It is very easy to do so, as the patch is there.

Maybe have a look to see whether other translations for debconf
templates are already sitting in the BTS. If so, they probably need
some work as they are against old-style debconf templates. I'd be
glad to help incorporating those.

This is the only field I can really help.

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New release of ifupdown planned

2003-08-27 Thread Thomas Hood
The ifupdown package hasn't been touched by its maintainer for over
two years and it is about time some of its problems were addressed.

Since the maintainer of ifupdown doesn't answer repeated attempts
to contact him by e-mail, I suppose it is appropriate to report
here that there is a group of people working on a new ifupdown
release.  Please contact me if you are interested or would like to
help.  We would like to have a release ready well before the
deadline for sarge.

This message should also be considered to be a query as to the
whereabouts of the missing maintainer for the purposes of section
7.4 of the developer's reference Dealing with inactive and/or
unreachable maintainers.

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Re: New release of ifupdown planned

2003-08-27 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 09:36:31PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
 The ifupdown package hasn't been touched by its maintainer for over
 two years and it is about time some of its problems were addressed.

Thanks for taking the initiative on this.  I'd noticed it's neglect a
while back but didn't have time to do anything about it.

 Since the maintainer of ifupdown doesn't answer repeated attempts
 to contact him by e-mail, I suppose it is appropriate to report
 here that there is a group of people working on a new ifupdown
 release.  Please contact me if you are interested or would like to
 help.  We would like to have a release ready well before the
 deadline for sarge.

I'd especially like to see bug 168776 closed.  There's even a patch
attached to it.

 This message should also be considered to be a query as to the
 whereabouts of the missing maintainer for the purposes of section
 7.4 of the developer's reference Dealing with inactive and/or
 unreachable maintainers.

AJ is definitely around...  In fact it's been less than 24 hours since
he's posted to this list...  AJ?

noah



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