No intend to package vbox

1999-01-19 Thread Martin Schulze
Hi,

here at work we are going to use vbox.  Since there is no Debian
package already I wonder if somebody has interest in packaging it.
I don't feel much interest but need for it so I would appreciate
if s/o else would step forward.

Regards,

Joey

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Re: No intend to package vbox

1999-01-19 Thread Martin Schulze
Martin Schulze wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> here at work we are going to use vbox.  Since there is no Debian
> package already I wonder if somebody has interest in packaging it.
> I don't feel much interest but need for it so I would appreciate
> if s/o else would step forward.

As Ruud reminded me isdnutils contains a vbox, but a quite old version.
What we need is vbox 2 beta 4.  It is available via ftp and should
probably be included in the isdnutils package or packaged up separately.

Currently I have difficulties detecting a source URL but the file
is called vbox2b4*.  Ah, finally found it:
ftp://ftp.netwave.de/pub/linux/drivers/isdn/vbox2b4.tar.gz

Regards,

Joey

PS: It seems to be included in SuSE 5.2
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Re: No intend to package vbox

1999-01-19 Thread Roland Rosenfeld
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> here at work we are going to use vbox. Since there is no Debian
>> package already I wonder if somebody has interest in packaging it.
>> I don't feel much interest but need for it so I would appreciate if
>> s/o else would step forward.

> As Ruud reminded me isdnutils contains a vbox, but a quite old
> version. What we need is vbox 2 beta 4.

As far as I can see isdnutils-3.0-8 includes vbox 2.0.0 beta 5, which
is a little bit newer than vbox 2 beta 4 with the following changes:

| **
| Changes since 2.0.0 Beta 4
| **
| 
| 31-Mar-98
| =
| 
| [Rel] 2.0.0 beta 5 released.
| 
| 26-Mar-98
| =
| 
| [New] src/libvbox.h
|   src/modem.c
|   src/modem.h
|   src/voice.c
|   src/voice.h
|   src/vbox.c
| 
|SUSPEND support for newer Hisax (only 2.1.X kernel in the moment)

> PS: It seems to be included in SuSE 5.2

And it is included in Debian 2.1 ;-)

Tscho

Roland

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Re: No intend to package vbox

1999-01-20 Thread Martin Schulze
Roland Rosenfeld wrote:
> >> here at work we are going to use vbox. Since there is no Debian
> >> package already I wonder if somebody has interest in packaging it.
> >> I don't feel much interest but need for it so I would appreciate if
> >> s/o else would step forward.
> 
> > As Ruud reminded me isdnutils contains a vbox, but a quite old
> > version. What we need is vbox 2 beta 4.
> 
> As far as I can see isdnutils-3.0-8 includes vbox 2.0.0 beta 5, which
> is a little bit newer than vbox 2 beta 4 with the following changes:

Thanks.  I've forwarded that to my collegue.

Regards,

Joey

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Re: No intend to package vbox

1999-01-20 Thread Paul Slootman
On Tue 19 Jan 1999, Roland Rosenfeld wrote:
> 
> As far as I can see isdnutils-3.0-8 includes vbox 2.0.0 beta 5, which
> is a little bit newer than vbox 2 beta 4 with the following changes:

I'm planning to split up isdnutils sometime into separate parts; there
are many sites where for example vbox isn't used at all, so having it
installed isn't useful.

I was thinking of the following packages:

isdnutilscontains the basic isdnctrl, ipppd stuff needed for networking
isdnmonitoring   isdnlog, imon, xisdnload, ... that sort of thing
isdndocs the faqs and other docs
isdnvbox vbox

If anyone has better suggestions (I haven't really thought hard about this
yet) I'd like to hear them (please include reasoning).


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Re: No intend to package vbox

1999-01-20 Thread Roland Rosenfeld
Paul Slootman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm planning to split up isdnutils sometime into separate parts;
> there are many sites where for example vbox isn't used at all, so
> having it installed isn't useful.

Sound reasonable.

> isdnvbox vbox

Hmmm, maybe this should be split into two packages, the vboxgetty and
vboxd on the one hand and the vbox client on the other hand. What I
want to say is, that there should be some chance to install only the
vbox client on a machine without the need to install a complete isdn
subsystem.

Tscho

Roland

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Re: No intend to package vbox

1999-01-23 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 11:36:23AM +0100, Paul Slootman wrote:

> I was thinking of the following packages:
> 
> isdnutils  contains the basic isdnctrl, ipppd stuff needed for networking
> isdnmonitoring isdnlog, imon, xisdnload, ... that sort of thing
> isdndocs   the faqs and other docs
> isdnvbox   vbox
> 
> If anyone has better suggestions (I haven't really thought hard about
> this yet) I'd like to hear them (please include reasoning).

i like the idea.  i don't use vbox or isdnlog at all.  

'isdnmon' is probably a better name than 'isdnmonitoring'.



also, i've been meaning to submit a bug report about the following:

one thing that would be really great would be if isdnutils could be
upgraded WITHOUT taking down any running ippp connections. it's a bit
difficult to upgrade isdnutils on a remote server when your only way of
getting to is via an ssh session over the ippp0 link.

the ssh package used to have a similar problem - all ssh sessions were
terminated when the package was upgraded...which meant i needed a telnet
daemon running in order to safely upgrade ssh (which defeated part of
the purpose of using ssh).

anyway, take a look at how ssh solved that problem...there may be useful
ideas in there for you.

you want me to submit a real bug report or is this message enough to get
it added to your TODO list ?


craig

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Re: No intend to package vbox

1999-01-25 Thread Paul Slootman
On Sat 23 Jan 1999, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 11:36:23AM +0100, Paul Slootman wrote:
> 
> > isdnutils  contains the basic isdnctrl, ipppd stuff needed for 
> > networking
> > isdnmonitoring isdnlog, imon, xisdnload, ... that sort of thing
> > isdndocs   the faqs and other docs
> > isdnvbox   vbox
> > 
> > If anyone has better suggestions (I haven't really thought hard about
> > this yet) I'd like to hear them (please include reasoning).
> 
> i like the idea.  i don't use vbox or isdnlog at all.  
> 
> 'isdnmon' is probably a better name than 'isdnmonitoring'.

Yeah, except I have this feeling there's some program called isdnmon out
there, in which case it's confusing.

> also, i've been meaning to submit a bug report about the following:
> 
> one thing that would be really great would be if isdnutils could be
> upgraded WITHOUT taking down any running ippp connections. it's a bit

There's already a wishlist bug outstanding on this topic (#29255).
Sometime, when I have the time... :(


Paul Slootman
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