No list archives getting updated at all

2003-12-11 Thread Phil Edwards
It isn't just debian-boot; none of the lists I checked at random have
been updated past that date and time.  No responses have been logged in
the audit trail either, which for an 'important' severity is disturbing.

listarchives maintainers, hello?  Can we get some kind of response, just
to let us know that these bug messages are reaching you, not being
dropped, not being ignored, not hung up in a mail gateway somewhere?




Re: No list archives getting updated at all

2003-12-11 Thread Ben Pfaff
Phil Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It isn't just debian-boot; none of the lists I checked at random have
> been updated past that date and time.  No responses have been logged in
> the audit trail either, which for an 'important' severity is disturbing.

If you're looking for an up-to-the-minute archive of Debian
lists, check out the nntp server at gmane.org.  Visit
www.gmane.org for details.

(I'm not saying that the lists shouldn't be archived by Debian,
but that's a good place to look, too.)




Re: No list archives getting updated at all

2003-12-11 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 06:37:57PM -0500, Phil Edwards wrote:
> It isn't just debian-boot; none of the lists I checked at random have
> been updated past that date and time.  No responses have been logged in
> the audit trail either, which for an 'important' severity is disturbing.
> 
> listarchives maintainers, hello?  Can we get some kind of response, just
> to let us know that these bug messages are reaching you, not being
> dropped, not being ignored, not hung up in a mail gateway somewhere?

Yes, you guessed it, they do not seem to be reaching us...

I traced the problem to the usual out-of-disk-space .mhonarc.db corruption,
and am fixing it now.

I'll get the mail problem fixed as well.

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Re: No list archives getting updated at all

2003-12-16 Thread Ulrich Eckhardt
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On Friday 12 December 2003 01:14, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> If you're looking for an up-to-the-minute archive of Debian
> lists, check out the nntp server at gmane.org.  Visit
> www.gmane.org for details.

I'm wondering if there's some IMAP (read-only) access to the lists? It 
recently occured to me that that would be a Nice Feature(tm), or do I have a 
flaw in that idea?

Uli
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Re: No list archives getting updated at all

2003-12-16 Thread Chad Walstrom
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 02:52:50PM +0100, Ulrich Eckhardt wrote:
> I'm wondering if there's some IMAP (read-only) access to the lists? It
> recently occured to me that that would be a Nice Feature(tm), or do I
> have a flaw in that idea?

No real reason for this.  Just grab the compressed mbox once per month
and drop it into your mail folder (uncompressed if necessary).  We don't
need to be eating up system resources for R-O IMAP.

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Re: No list archives getting updated at all

2003-12-16 Thread Andreas Metzler
Ulrich Eckhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Friday 12 December 2003 01:14, Ben Pfaff wrote:
>> If you're looking for an up-to-the-minute archive of Debian
>> lists, check out the nntp server at gmane.org.  Visit
>> www.gmane.org for details.

> I'm wondering if there's some IMAP (read-only) access to the lists?
> It recently occured to me that that would be a Nice Feature(tm), or
> do I have a flaw in that idea?

I think IMAP on large mailboxes could be quite resource consuming,
especially stuff like SEARCH.
  cu andreas




Re: No list archives getting updated at all

2003-12-16 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 06:20:18PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> > I'm wondering if there's some IMAP (read-only) access to the lists?
> > It recently occured to me that that would be a Nice Feature(tm), or
> > do I have a flaw in that idea?
> 
> I think IMAP on large mailboxes could be quite resource consuming,
> especially stuff like SEARCH.

It could work if there was a backend optimized for this.  However, I
don't think there is.

Besides, NNTP is better-suited for it, and BTW is already available at
www.gmane.org.

-- John




Re: No list archives getting updated at all

2003-12-16 Thread Graham Wilson
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:12:57AM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 02:52:50PM +0100, Ulrich Eckhardt wrote:
> > I'm wondering if there's some IMAP (read-only) access to the lists? It
> > recently occured to me that that would be a Nice Feature(tm), or do I
> > have a flaw in that idea?
> 
> No real reason for this.  Just grab the compressed mbox once per month
> and drop it into your mail folder (uncompressed if necessary).  We don't
> need to be eating up system resources for R-O IMAP.

Or archive the mail locally, which is what I do for all the lists I am
subscribed to. Makes it a lot better for searching through old mails.

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Re: No list archives getting updated at all

2003-12-17 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:17:50 -0600, John Goerzen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Besides, NNTP is better-suited for it, and BTW is already available at
>www.gmane.org.

If we start referring people to GMANE, we should drop them a load of
older list archives for import. They only started in mid-2002.

Greetings
Marc

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