Only .changes files are readable in NEW/

2003-04-24 Thread christophe barbe

I wonder why only the .changes files are readable in the NEW queue.
Is there a reason for this?

Christophe 

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Re: Only .changes files are readable in NEW/

2003-04-24 Thread Jérôme Marant
En réponse à christophe barbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 I wonder why only the .changes files are readable in the NEW queue.
 Is there a reason for this?

Yes, it is normal. The reason is crypto-in-main: they have to be
checked by ftp-masters first.

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Re: Only .changes files are readable in NEW/

2003-04-24 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 08:04:51AM -0400, christophe barbe wrote:
 
 I wonder why only the .changes files are readable in the NEW queue.
 Is there a reason for this?

Crypto-in-main.

Michael




Re: Only .changes files are readable in NEW/

2003-04-24 Thread christophe barbe
On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 02:30:35PM +0200, J?r?me Marant wrote:
 Yes, it is normal. The reason is crypto-in-main: they have to be
 checked by ftp-masters first.

I don't see why they should not be readable by everyone before being
checked by ftp-master. I don't said I disapprove that (for what it would
worth) but I don't understand the logic. Can someone explain?

Thanks,
Christophe 

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Re: Only .changes files are readable in NEW/

2003-04-24 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 02:30:50PM -0400, christophe barbe wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 02:30:35PM +0200, J?r?me Marant wrote:
  Yes, it is normal. The reason is crypto-in-main: they have to be
  checked by ftp-masters first.
 
 I don't see why they should not be readable by everyone before being
 checked by ftp-master. I don't said I disapprove that (for what it would
 worth) but I don't understand the logic. Can someone explain?

  Files in NEW are those files not having been checked by ftp-masters
  still. After that, it's let go in and go to ACCEPTED and after
  dinstall into the archive or rejected.

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Re: Only .changes files are readable in NEW/

2003-04-24 Thread Stephen Frost
* christophe barbe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 02:30:35PM +0200, J?r?me Marant wrote:
  Yes, it is normal. The reason is crypto-in-main: they have to be
  checked by ftp-masters first.
 
 I don't see why they should not be readable by everyone before being
 checked by ftp-master. I don't said I disapprove that (for what it would
 worth) but I don't understand the logic. Can someone explain?

Read the crypto-in-main announcement on d-d-a from last year (March-ish
I think?).

Stephen


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Re: Only .changes files are readable in NEW/

2003-04-24 Thread John Hasler
christophe barbe wrote:
 I don't see why they should not be readable by everyone before being
 checked by ftp-master. I don't said I disapprove that (for what it would
 worth) but I don't understand the logic. Can someone explain?

There is no logic involved.  Just US law.  Cryptographic software may not
be made available for download until it has been registered in some silly
way.
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Re: Only .changes files are readable in NEW/

2003-04-24 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 02:30:50PM -0400, christophe barbe wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 02:30:35PM +0200, J?r?me Marant wrote:
  Yes, it is normal. The reason is crypto-in-main: they have to be
  checked by ftp-masters first.
 
 I don't see why they should not be readable by everyone before being
 checked by ftp-master. I don't said I disapprove that (for what it would
 worth) but I don't understand the logic. Can someone explain?

When I read http://www.debian.org/legal/cryptoinmain correct, all
Software that contains cryptographic functionality must be registered
before it can legally be distributed. So the ftp-master must check if
a new package contains cryptographic functionality and if it is
already registered.

hth,
Frank

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Re: Only .changes files are readable in NEW/

2003-04-24 Thread Stephen Frost
* Frank Lichtenheld ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 When I read http://www.debian.org/legal/cryptoinmain correct, all
 Software that contains cryptographic functionality must be registered
 before it can legally be distributed. So the ftp-master must check if
 a new package contains cryptographic functionality and if it is
 already registered.

Just to clarify for people, this is for strong cryptographic export
outside of the US from within the US.  Registration isn't required for
distribution inside the US.  Obviously Debian has to deal with this
issue and I think the current way works fine but I'd rather not have
people thinking that to distribute crypto in the US they need to
register it.

Stephen


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Re: Only .changes files are readable in NEW/

2003-04-24 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi,

On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 10:00:49PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 02:30:50PM -0400, christophe barbe wrote:
  On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 02:30:35PM +0200, J?r?me Marant wrote:
   Yes, it is normal. The reason is crypto-in-main: they have to be
   checked by ftp-masters first.
  
  I don't see why they should not be readable by everyone before being
  checked by ftp-master. I don't said I disapprove that (for what it would
  worth) but I don't understand the logic. Can someone explain?
 
 When I read http://www.debian.org/legal/cryptoinmain correct, all
 Software that contains cryptographic functionality must be registered
 before it can legally be distributed. So the ftp-master must check if
 a new package contains cryptographic functionality and if it is
 already registered.

Considering the legislators' feeling for these matters, I'm surprised
nobody's been able to convince these people to allow registration to
happen in write only memory.

Cheers,


Emile.

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Re: Only .changes files are readable in NEW/

2003-04-24 Thread christophe barbe
On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 10:00:49PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
 When I read http://www.debian.org/legal/cryptoinmain correct, all
 Software that contains cryptographic functionality must be registered
 before it can legally be distributed. So the ftp-master must check if
 a new package contains cryptographic functionality and if it is
 already registered.

Thanks for the explanation and the link.
Sounds like a good reason.

Christophe

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