ProposalL /usr/bin/open as an alternative for xdg-open and run-mailcap.
Hello kbd maintainers, xdg-utils maintainers and everybody, The “kbd” package ships a symbolic link from /bin/open to /bin/openvt. “openvt” is used to start a program on a new virtual terminal, and according to its manual page, it has been renamed from “open” at the end of the XXth century. The changelog of the kbd package confirms the impression that it has been phased out efficiently (thanks !). I propose to harvest the fruit of this effort and introduce a /usr/bin/open command to open files. In Debian, there are multiple commands to causally open a file after guessing its contents, in particular “see” from the “mime-support” package and “xdg-open” from the “xdg-utils” package. On Macintoshes, the command “open” does something similar. I propose that to use the alternatives system to provide /usr/bin/open by xdg-utils and mime-support (at a lower priority), after kbd would drop the symbolic link to openvt. The common interface would be to run “open” on filenames, with no URLs and no command-line options. PS: I just see that it has been proposed already in the BTS (bug CCed) and discused on a FreeDesktop mailing list. http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2013-December/012969.html I volunteer to contact them in case the idea takes momentum here. Have a nice day, -- Charles Plessy Maintainer of the mime-support package Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140429080559.gf29...@falafel.plessy.net
Re: ProposalL /usr/bin/open as an alternative for xdg-open and run-mailcap.
]] Charles Plessy Hello kbd maintainers, xdg-utils maintainers and everybody, The “kbd” package ships a symbolic link from /bin/open to /bin/openvt. “openvt” is used to start a program on a new virtual terminal, and according to its manual page, it has been renamed from “open” at the end of the XXth century. The changelog of the kbd package confirms the impression that it has been phased out efficiently (thanks !). It hasn't. I for one regularly use it with the old name and I know I have scripts lying about using it with that name. I propose to harvest the fruit of this effort and introduce a /usr/bin/open command to open files. Please don't, or if you insist, get kbd to stop shipping it, wait for at least two releases and then introduce it with a new name. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87vbtspe90@xoog.err.no
Re: ProposalL /usr/bin/open as an alternative for xdg-open and run-mailcap.
Tollef Fog Heen tfheen at err.no writes: “openvt” is used to start a program on a new virtual terminal, and according to its manual page, it has been renamed from “open” at the end of the XXth century. The changelog of the kbd package confirms the impression that it has been phased out efficiently (thanks !). It hasn't. I for one regularly use it with the old name and I know I have scripts lying about using it with that name. FWIW: “sudo mksh -lT8” opens a login shell on /dev/tty8 (-T also takes a full /dev/ttySOMETHING argument), only hindered slightly by the Linux kernel lacking the revoke(2) syscall. (And mksh -T- -c 'something' dæmonises something, and if you præfix the terminal with ‘!’ it doesn’t return immediately, thus eliminating fully the need for cttyhack and setsid in Busybox, for people wanting to offer usable interactive shells in /etc/rc or even /init or /linuxrc.) bye, //mirabilos (it also provides an amazing analog clock, ask XTaran…) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/loom.20140429t173123-...@post.gmane.org
