Re: Better communication between projects
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Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [Sami Haahtinen]
>> like 'dpkg --show-primary-contact ' That way we could even
>> add a separate field Preferred-Contact: (or something alike) that
>> could override the maintainer and modifier.
>
> "Preferred contact" is *exactly* what the Maintainer field means.
> [Well, and the co-maintainers ("Uploaders") field, as a supplement.]
>
> Debian people who have a problem with downstream changing the
> Maintainer field need to get over themselves and think about whether
> debian/changelog gives them all the credit they are owed. (It
> certainly does, unless it's been abridged.)
Completely agreed. While I don't object to occasional mails from
Ubuntu users, I don't generally have a proper Ubuntu contact (or list)
to point them to. This would help a lot there, as well as preventing
the problem in the first place.
Another related problem I noticed the other day is that the Ubuntu
change history is lost when merging new packages from Debian unstable,
which makes it next to impossible for me to find out who last changed
it on the Ubuntu side. This is because any changes to the Ubuntu
changelog are discarded, rather than being merged back into the Debian
changelog (though I can appreciate this is not an easy problem to
solve in an automated fashion).
Regards,
Roger
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Re: Better communication between projects
On 1/15/06, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Completely agreed. While I don't object to occasional mails from > Ubuntu users, I don't generally have a proper Ubuntu contact (or list) > to point them to. This would help a lot there, as well as preventing > the problem in the first place. Please tell them to use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for general support questions. The developers of the 'main' component can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED], for 'universe' packages the developers can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Another related problem I noticed the other day is that the Ubuntu > change history is lost when merging new packages from Debian unstable, > which makes it next to impossible for me to find out who last changed > it on the Ubuntu side. This is because any changes to the Ubuntu > changelog are discarded, rather than being merged back into the Debian > changelog (though I can appreciate this is not an easy problem to > solve in an automated fashion). This is right. We are in general happy if we can reduce divergence, and from time to time, ubuntu developers find that a introduced divergence has become or is unneeded. In that case, we request syncing over the new debian source package, overriding all ubuntu changes, including the changelog for practical reasons. So the best chance to see who uploaded a package and why seems to me to be the maillinglist 'dapper-changes@lists.ubuntu.com' which works similar to 'debian-devel-changes@lists.debian.org'. I hope this mail was not too annoying for debian-devel. -- regards, Reinhard
Re: Better communication between projects
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 01:07:05PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > Completely agreed. While I don't object to occasional mails from > Ubuntu users, I don't generally have a proper Ubuntu contact (or list) > to point them to. This would help a lot there, as well as preventing > the problem in the first place. Right. I should also note that I got some very positive emails and feedback from Ubuntu users. So, no, this is not neccessarily negative. Michael -- Michael Meskes Email: Michael at Fam-Meskes dot De, Michael at Meskes dot (De|Com|Net|Org) ICQ: 179140304, AIM/Yahoo: michaelmeskes, Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Go SF 49ers! Go Rhein Fire! Use Debian GNU/Linux! Use PostgreSQL! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Better communication between projects
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Reinhard Tartler wrote: > On 1/15/06, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Completely agreed. While I don't object to occasional mails from >>Ubuntu users, I don't generally have a proper Ubuntu contact (or list) >>to point them to. This would help a lot there, as well as preventing >>the problem in the first place. > > Please tell them to use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for general > support questions. The developers of the 'main' component can be > reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED], for 'universe' packages the > developers can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe we should gather this info in a wiki page (either on debian or ubuntu wiki), that would make it easier to debian people to find this information. - - S -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDylniqbb3MLg9dhwRAnTgAJ9PhG0VMK3pQbot36hHxW/8M1KT3wCcCs9L BDqchSp7CfdYZeWVMAHtFKo= =YOOd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Better communication between projects [Was: ad-hominem construct deleted]
[Sami Haahtinen]
> like 'dpkg --show-primary-contact ' That way we could even
> add a separate field Preferred-Contact: (or something alike) that
> could override the maintainer and modifier.
"Preferred contact" is *exactly* what the Maintainer field means.
[Well, and the co-maintainers ("Uploaders") field, as a supplement.]
Debian people who have a problem with downstream changing the
Maintainer field need to get over themselves and think about whether
debian/changelog gives them all the credit they are owed. (It
certainly does, unless it's been abridged.)
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