Re: Bits from the release team - Freeze update
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Neil McGovern wrote: > Unblocks and Freeze Policy > -- > ... > We're also reducing the acceptance criteria [RM:POLICY] - we're now only going > to accept: > ... Which policy applies in the case of unblock requests that are pending action by the release team since before this mail? In particular I'm thinking of the warzone2100 one. > Package Removals > > We've recently revived the practice of removing buggy leaf packages. We're > aiming at posting to -devel weekly a list of RC-buggy leaf packages which we > intend to remove. The relevant maintainers are also copied on those mails. > Please keep an eye on those and avoid your own packages getting in the list! > This activity helps, but we will be running out of leaf packages pretty soon, > so this is no excuse to ignore the others! Usertags can be seen at [BTS:RMTAG] It would be great to keep this up after the release too, preferrably in a more automated way. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAKTje6F4DToEcEd4vJRc0DNgUONKYey=bijuuqbxg-iwhjl...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Bits from the release team - Freeze update
On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 08:09:51PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Neil McGovern wrote: > > > Unblocks and Freeze Policy > > -- > > ... > > We're also reducing the acceptance criteria [RM:POLICY] - we're now only > > going > > to accept: > > ... > > Which policy applies in the case of unblock requests that are pending > action by the release team since before this mail? In particular I'm > thinking of the warzone2100 one. > The policy and diff from the start can be found at http://release.debian.org/wheezy/freeze_policy.html > > Package Removals > > > > We've recently revived the practice of removing buggy leaf packages. We're > > aiming at posting to -devel weekly a list of RC-buggy leaf packages which we > > intend to remove. The relevant maintainers are also copied on those mails. > > Please keep an eye on those and avoid your own packages getting in the list! > > This activity helps, but we will be running out of leaf packages pretty > > soon, > > so this is no excuse to ignore the others! Usertags can be seen at > > [BTS:RMTAG] > > It would be great to keep this up after the release too, preferrably > in a more automated way. > It's semi-automated - the list generation exists but needs manual checking. It would be good to have a look after the release on how things went, what to continue etc. I expect to have a release team retrospective, but a BoF at Debconf or a miniconf may be useful too. Neil -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bits from the release team - Freeze update
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Neil McGovern wrote: > The policy and diff from the start can be found at > http://release.debian.org/wheezy/freeze_policy.html Which policy applies to #685913 (and all the other open unblocks)? The policy announced at the beginning of the freeze or the current policy? -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caktje6gs+jr6zur5znwdgrcmfogr+jrddqpatxawkzf8gqo...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Bits from the release team - Freeze update
On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 10:40:18PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > Which policy applies to #685913 (and all the other open unblocks)? The > policy announced at the beginning of the freeze or the current policy? …or the time the unblock was filed? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121108171855.GB3915@debian
Re: Bits from the release team - Freeze update
On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 05:18:55PM +, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 10:40:18PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > > Which policy applies to #685913 (and all the other open unblocks)? The > > policy announced at the beginning of the freeze or the current policy? > > …or the time the unblock was filed? > Apologies for the lack of clarity in the d-d-a posting - the new acceptance criteria are for unblocks filed after 11:54:49 + today. Neil -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bits from the release team - Freeze update
Am Donnerstag, den 08.11.2012, 19:21 + schrieb Neil McGovern: > On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 05:18:55PM +, Jon Dowland wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 10:40:18PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > > > Which policy applies to #685913 (and all the other open unblocks)? The > > > policy announced at the beginning of the freeze or the current policy? > > > > …or the time the unblock was filed? > > > > Apologies for the lack of clarity in the d-d-a posting - the new > acceptance criteria are for unblocks filed after 11:54:49 + today. Hm, I filed two unblock requests after that deadline, but before reading the announce mail about it. -- Benjamin Drung Debian & Ubuntu Developer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1352402942.25394.18.camel@deep-thought
Re: Bits from the release team - Freeze update
On Donnerstag, 8. November 2012, Benjamin Drung wrote: > Hm, I filed two unblock requests after that deadline, but before reading > the announce mail about it. get a lawyer, quick! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201211082045.16975.hol...@layer-acht.org
Re: Bits from the release team - Freeze update
On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 08:29:02PM +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote: > Hm, I filed two unblock requests after that deadline, but before reading > the announce mail about it. You don't state whether the decision impacts them or not, but so it goes… -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121108203530.GB11858@debian
Re: Bits from the release team - Freeze update
On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 07:21:30PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: > Apologies for the lack of clarity in the d-d-a posting - the new > acceptance criteria are for unblocks filed after 11:54:49 + today. No problem - thanks for the clarification! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121108203550.GC11858@debian
Re: Bits from the release team - Freeze update
Am Donnerstag, den 08.11.2012, 20:35 + schrieb Jon Dowland: > On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 08:29:02PM +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote: > > Hm, I filed two unblock requests after that deadline, but before reading > > the announce mail about it. > > You don't state whether the decision impacts them or not, but so it goes… The requested updates (for vlc and devscripts) fix bugs, but not release critical bugs. I am unsure whether these updates get unblocked even after the reduced acceptance criteria. -- Benjamin Drung Debian & Ubuntu Developer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1352413041.10356.3.camel@deep-thought
Re: Bits from the release team - Freeze update
Quoting Benjamin Drung (bdr...@debian.org): > Am Donnerstag, den 08.11.2012, 20:35 + schrieb Jon Dowland: > > On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 08:29:02PM +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote: > > > Hm, I filed two unblock requests after that deadline, but before reading > > > the announce mail about it. > > > > You don't state whether the decision impacts them or not, but so it goes… > > The requested updates (for vlc and devscripts) fix bugs, but not release > critical bugs. I am unsure whether these updates get unblocked even > after the reduced acceptance criteria. Well, I bet that our estimated colleagues in the Release Team are not robots, so discussing with them might be possible..:-) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bits from the release team - Freeze update
Christian PERRIER (09/11/2012): > Well, I bet that our estimated colleagues in the Release Team are not > robots […] [ OK ] Turing test. Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bits from the release team - Freeze update
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 06:54:23AM +0100, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Benjamin Drung (bdr...@debian.org): > > Am Donnerstag, den 08.11.2012, 20:35 + schrieb Jon Dowland: > > > On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 08:29:02PM +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote: > > > > Hm, I filed two unblock requests after that deadline, but before reading > > > > the announce mail about it. > > > > > > You don't state whether the decision impacts them or not, but so it goes… > > > > The requested updates (for vlc and devscripts) fix bugs, but not release > > critical bugs. I am unsure whether these updates get unblocked even > > after the reduced acceptance criteria. > > > Well, I bet that our estimated colleagues in the Release Team are not > robots, so discussing with them might be possible..:-) > Additionally, the mails didn't make it to the list due to the size of the attached diff. You may want to consider that an indication of our willingness to review the provided diff. Neil -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bits from the release team - Freeze update
Am Freitag, den 09.11.2012, 10:12 + schrieb Neil McGovern: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 06:54:23AM +0100, Christian PERRIER wrote: > > Quoting Benjamin Drung (bdr...@debian.org): > > > Am Donnerstag, den 08.11.2012, 20:35 + schrieb Jon Dowland: > > > > On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 08:29:02PM +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote: > > > > > Hm, I filed two unblock requests after that deadline, but before > > > > > reading > > > > > the announce mail about it. > > > > > > > > You don't state whether the decision impacts them or not, but so it > > > > goes… > > > > > > The requested updates (for vlc and devscripts) fix bugs, but not release > > > critical bugs. I am unsure whether these updates get unblocked even > > > after the reduced acceptance criteria. > > > > > > Well, I bet that our estimated colleagues in the Release Team are not > > robots, so discussing with them might be possible..:-) > > > > Additionally, the mails didn't make it to the list due to the size of > the attached diff. You may want to consider that an indication of our > willingness to review the provided diff. The version in testing has a known security vulnerability, which was fixed by upstream in their newer upstream release. I sent a more stripped debdiff to make the review easier. Removing Windows/MacOS changes and auto-generated autotools file changes reduces the diff size by factor 2.4. -- Benjamin Drung Debian & Ubuntu Developer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1353325062.23011.11.camel@deep-thought
Re: Bits from the release team - Freeze update
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:37:42PM +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote: > The version in testing has a known security vulnerability, which was > fixed by upstream in their newer upstream release. I sent a more > stripped debdiff to make the review easier. Removing Windows/MacOS > changes and auto-generated autotools file changes reduces the diff size > by factor 2.4. > At this point, we prefer a targetted fix rather than a new upstream release. Please backport the security fix and produce a debdiff against the version in testing, via a bug against release.debian.org Neil -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
