Re: Bug#277193: ITP: tagtool -- tool to tag and rename MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files

2004-10-19 Thread Joshua Kwan
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:46:02 -0500, Graham Wilson wrote:
 Audio Tag Tool is a program to manage the information fields in MP3 and
 Ogg Vorbis files (commonly called tags). Tag Tool can be used to edit
 tags one by one, but the most useful features are mass tag and mass
 rename. These are designed to tag or rename hundreds of files at once,
 in any desired format.

How's this better than easytag?

Description: viewing, editing and writing ID3 tags of MP3 and Ogg files
 EasyTAG is an utility for viewing, editing and writing
 the ID3 tags of MP3 and Ogg files, using a GTK+ interface.
 .
 Currently EasyTAG supports the following features:
  - Viewing, editing, writing ID3 TAGs of MP3 and Ogg files,
  - Process all files of the selected directory,
  - Ability to browse subdirectories,
  - Recursion for tagging, removing, renaming, saving...,
  - Easy directory selection with a tree browser,
  - Supports ID3v1, ID3v1.1, and ID3v2 tags,
  - Scan file for automatic tagging (using masks),
  - Scan tag for automatic renaming file (using masks),
  - Rename mp3 file,
  - Can apply a field (artist, title,...) to all other files,
  - Display MP3 header informations,
  - Can load a character translation file.

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Joshua Kwan





Re: Bug#277193: ITP: tagtool -- tool to tag and rename MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files

2004-10-19 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 10:45:59PM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote:
 Description: viewing, editing and writing ID3 tags of MP3 and Ogg files
  EasyTAG is an utility for viewing, editing and writing
  the ID3 tags of MP3 and Ogg files, using a GTK+ interface.

Ogg files don't have ID3 tags; I trust this actually means that it uses
the standard metadata tagging system of Ogg, and not ID3?

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Glenn Maynard




Re: Bug#277193: ITP: tagtool -- tool to tag and rename MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files

2004-10-19 Thread Michal Politowski
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:46:02 -0500, Graham Wilson wrote:
 Package: wnpp
 Severity: wishlist
 
 * Package name: tagtool
   Version : 0.10
   Upstream Author : Pedro Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * URL : http://pwp.netcabo.pt/paol/tagtool/
 * License : GPL
   Description : tool to tag and rename MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files
 
 Audio Tag Tool is a program to manage the information fields in MP3 and
 Ogg Vorbis files (commonly called tags). Tag Tool can be used to edit
 tags one by one, but the most useful features are mass tag and mass
 rename. These are designed to tag or rename hundreds of files at once,
 in any desired format.

Does it correctly handle Unicode encoded ID3v2 tags?
Checking...
No, it apparently doesn't.
So I question the value of introducing yet another broken tool to the
archive.

Oh, another check...
It seems not to handle correctly even Vorbis comments,
which are UTF8 by definition.
Definitely not mature enough, unless I've made some serious mistakes.

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Micha Politowski
Talking has been known to lead to communication if practised carelessly.


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Re: Bug#277193: ITP: tagtool -- tool to tag and rename MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files

2004-10-19 Thread Graham Wilson
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 02:45:24AM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 10:45:59PM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote:
  Description: viewing, editing and writing ID3 tags of MP3 and Ogg files
   EasyTAG is an utility for viewing, editing and writing
   the ID3 tags of MP3 and Ogg files, using a GTK+ interface.
 
 Ogg files don't have ID3 tags; I trust this actually means that it uses
 the standard metadata tagging system of Ogg, and not ID3?

Yes, EasyTAG edits Ogg Vorbis tags properly.

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gram




Re: Bug#277193: ITP: tagtool -- tool to tag and rename MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files

2004-10-19 Thread Graham Wilson
On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 10:45:59PM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote:
 On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:46:02 -0500, Graham Wilson wrote:
  Audio Tag Tool is a program to manage the information fields in MP3 and
  Ogg Vorbis files (commonly called tags). Tag Tool can be used to edit
  tags one by one, but the most useful features are mass tag and mass
  rename. These are designed to tag or rename hundreds of files at once,
  in any desired format.
 
 How's this better than easytag?

Feature for feature, I think EasyTAG is probably better than tagtool.
tagtool, though, was easier to use for me, and had a less cluttered
interface.

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gram




Re: Bug#277193: ITP: tagtool -- tool to tag and rename MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files

2004-10-19 Thread Graham Wilson
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 12:01:44PM +0200, Michal Politowski wrote:
 On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:46:02 -0500, Graham Wilson wrote:
  Audio Tag Tool is a program to manage the information fields in MP3 and
  Ogg Vorbis files (commonly called tags). Tag Tool can be used to edit
  tags one by one, but the most useful features are mass tag and mass
  rename. These are designed to tag or rename hundreds of files at once,
  in any desired format.
 
 Does it correctly handle Unicode encoded ID3v2 tags?
 Checking...
 No, it apparently doesn't.

The TODO file says the following, which I haven't followed up on:

 Make ID3v2 text encoding a preference as soon as id3lib releases an
 unbroken version (hopefully 2.4.0)

 So I question the value of introducing yet another broken tool to the
 archive.

tagtool does work in some cases, even if not in all of them. The program
is valuable to me (hence my ITP), and I'm sure it will be valuable to at
least a few others. I don't think a package has to be valuable to
everyone before it is allowed in the archive.

 It seems not to handle correctly even Vorbis comments, which are UTF8
 by definition.

Seemed to work fine for me. How are you testing this?

 Definitely not mature enough, unless I've made some serious mistakes.

It seems to work fine for my music collection, and I'm sure it works
fine for others as well, so I see no reason not to upload it to the
archive.

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gram




Re: Bug#277193: ITP: tagtool -- tool to tag and rename MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files

2004-10-19 Thread Michal Politowski
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:36:59 -0500, Graham Wilson wrote:
[...]
  It seems not to handle correctly even Vorbis comments, which are UTF8
  by definition.
 
 Seemed to work fine for me. How are you testing this?

./configure; make; make install
Then opened some correctly commented files, which resulted in errors:
** (tagtool:19653): WARNING **: Invalid UTF8 string passed to 
pango_layout_set_text()
and displayed comments cut at the first out-of-ASCII character.
Then tried to change the comments, which subsequently appeared correctly
only in tagtool.

Now I see that actually it works correctly in a UTF-8 locale,
but not in my pl_PL that uses ISO-8859-2, so I would guess there are some
wrong/unnecessary conversions going on somewhere.

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Micha Politowski
Talking has been known to lead to communication if practised carelessly.


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