Re: Bug#597340: dpkg-gencontrol: implicit substvar at the end of every field
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 23:07:44 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > >CCing -devel and Joey Hess to have some input on this idea. Do you think > > >it would be useful ? Do you have comments and suggestions ? > > > > I'm uncomfortable with the idea of (even more?) build-time package > > settings being hidden away outside of debian/control. :-/ > > On the flip side, it means less possibilities of mistakes for debhelper > users, a simpler learning curve to newbies who don't have to know about > substvars right from the start, etc. > > But I can understand your feeling and we will probably need options to > disable this behaviour in some cases. > I'm at least as uncomfortable with new options as I am with new magic. dpkg-source has way too many options already. Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bug#597340: dpkg-gencontrol: implicit substvar at the end of every field
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >CCing -devel and Joey Hess to have some input on this idea. Do you think > >it would be useful ? Do you have comments and suggestions ? > > I'm uncomfortable with the idea of (even more?) build-time package > settings being hidden away outside of debian/control. :-/ On the flip side, it means less possibilities of mistakes for debhelper users, a simpler learning curve to newbies who don't have to know about substvars right from the start, etc. But I can understand your feeling and we will probably need options to disable this behaviour in some cases. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer ◈ [Flattr=20693] Follow my Debian News ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.com (English) ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.fr (Français) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100919210744.ga3...@rivendell.home.ouaza.com
Re: Bug#597340: dpkg-gencontrol: implicit substvar at the end of every field
Raphaël Hertzog wrote:
>
>Every time that debhelper needs to adjust a dependency it provides a new
>substvar and the maintainer needs to put it in the right field. I was
>thinking that we could avoid the second half if some specific substvars
>was added at the end of every field.
>
>dpkg-gencontrol could be modified to always append the value of
>${implicit:} at the end of the corresponding field. Maybe
>we should even support multiple substvars (say
>${implicit::}) so that there's no coordination problem
>if multiple tools want to add something at the end of the same field.
>
>This would even make it possible for debhelper to add dependencies that
>are not at all present in debian/control, like for example Breaks... this
>would have been handy for example when several dh_* tools have stopped
>doing their work on the assumption that the triggerized version of
>the postinst snippet was available on the system. With a break, it could
>ensure that the relevant package had been upgraded...
>
>With such a system, the ${misc:Depends} that we are currently adding
>everywhere would not have been needed.
>
>CCing -devel and Joey Hess to have some input on this idea. Do you think
>it would be useful ? Do you have comments and suggestions ?
I'm uncomfortable with the idea of (even more?) build-time package
settings being hidden away outside of debian/control. :-/
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