Re: Bug#613806: ITP: mplayer2 -- next generation movie player for Unix-like systems
Reinhard Tartler siretart at tauware.de writes: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Reinhard Tartler siretart at tauware.de * Package name: mplayer2 Version : 2.0beta1 Upstream Author : Uoti Urpala uoti.urpala at pp1.inet.fi * URL : http://www.mplayer2.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : next generation movie player for Unix-like systems MPlayer plays most MPEG, VOB, AVI, Ogg/OGM, VIVO, ASF/WMA/WMV, QT/MOV/MP4, FLI, RM, NuppelVideo, yuv4mpeg, FILM, RoQ, PVA files, supported by many native, XAnim, RealPlayer, and Win32 DLL codecs. It can also play VideoCD, SVCD, DVD, 3ivx, RealMedia, and DivX movies. Another big feature of MPlayer is the wide range of supported output drivers. It works with X11, Xv, DGA, OpenGL, SVGAlib, fbdev, DirectFB, The text above is copied from the existing mplayer package. It is The long description really needs a rewrite. basically a well-known and quite popular fork of mplayer. TBH, I'm a bit unsure what to do with it. From the first look, it seems that mplayer2 is better suited for being included in a distro release, but not (yet) in its current form. Currently, it includes a copy of ffmpeg-mt, a I'm not sure if you've misunderstood something or just phrased things inaccurately, but I think this description is at least misleading for people who aren't already familiar with the setup. The player itself does not include a copy of any FFmpeg version, and can be compiled against any external library versions. However, using FFmpeg-mt is the best choice for the majority of users. Since there aren't packaged versions available for most distros (and it's not really suited for a systemwide install in its current form due to some API issues), the alternative recommended for most users is to statically link against a custom-compiled FFmpeg-mt. The build wrapper exists to make it easy to do this without needing separate manual library building steps. However, use of the wrapper is in no way forced, and users/packagers are free to choose what form of FFmpeg libraries to compile against. well-known fork of the ffmpeg package, which features multithreaded h264 decoding and actually is already in debian as part of the chromium-browser package. While ffmpeg-mt is currently being integrated/merged into ffmpeg upstream, mplayer2's future is not that certain. If by future you mean the possibility of a merge with MPlayer 1, I think it's pretty certain that won't happen. It's possible that at some point MPlayer 1 will die and be completely replaced by MPlayer2, but any other kind of merge seems unlikely. Having this in mind, I intend to maintain the package under the pkg-multimedia umbrella. mplayer2 shoudl go to experimental for now, including ffmpeg-mt. Help and ideas with that is more than welcome! I think having a package using FFmpeg-mt available is good, as it's a substantial performance improvement over anything available in Debian today. However as above this isn't directly forced by MPlayer2 itself. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/loom.20110218t111649-...@post.gmane.org
Re: Bug#613806: ITP: mplayer2 -- next generation movie player for Unix-like systems
Thanks for jumping on this ITP, I wanted to point you to this ITP yesteday but got distracted by other stuff. Seems you've noticed it anyway, which is cool! :-) On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 12:08:25 (CET), Uoti Urpala wrote: Reinhard Tartler siretart at tauware.de writes: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Reinhard Tartler siretart at tauware.de * Package name: mplayer2 Version : 2.0beta1 Upstream Author : Uoti Urpala uoti.urpala at pp1.inet.fi * URL : http://www.mplayer2.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : next generation movie player for Unix-like systems MPlayer plays most MPEG, VOB, AVI, Ogg/OGM, VIVO, ASF/WMA/WMV, QT/MOV/MP4, FLI, RM, NuppelVideo, yuv4mpeg, FILM, RoQ, PVA files, supported by many native, XAnim, RealPlayer, and Win32 DLL codecs. It can also play VideoCD, SVCD, DVD, 3ivx, RealMedia, and DivX movies. Another big feature of MPlayer is the wide range of supported output drivers. It works with X11, Xv, DGA, OpenGL, SVGAlib, fbdev, DirectFB, The text above is copied from the existing mplayer package. It is The long description really needs a rewrite. Absolutely. Actually, this is also true for the package description of the existing 'mplayer' package. basically a well-known and quite popular fork of mplayer. TBH, I'm a bit unsure what to do with it. From the first look, it seems that mplayer2 is better suited for being included in a distro release, but not (yet) in its current form. Currently, it includes a copy of ffmpeg-mt, a I'm not sure if you've misunderstood something or just phrased things inaccurately, but I think this description is at least misleading for people who aren't already familiar with the setup. Thanks for your elaboration on the issue. For practical packaging issue, I think it makes most sense to just use the copy of ffmpeg-mt that is included in the mplayer2 tarball. This is what i've referred to with saying 'includes a copy of ffmpeg-mt'. I think having a package using FFmpeg-mt available is good, as it's a substantial performance improvement over anything available in Debian today. However as above this isn't directly forced by MPlayer2 itself. Which has been requested several times now. Relevant reports include: http://bugs.debian.org/575600 http://launchpad.net/bugs/611851 -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8762sh35ff@faui44a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
Re: Bug#613806: ITP: mplayer2 -- next generation movie player for Unix-like systems
[Uoti Urpala] Description : next generation movie player for Unix-like systems MPlayer plays most MPEG, VOB, AVI, Ogg/OGM, VIVO, ASF/WMA/WMV, QT/MOV/MP4, FLI, RM, NuppelVideo, yuv4mpeg, FILM, RoQ, PVA files, supported by many native, XAnim, RealPlayer, and Win32 DLL codecs. It can also play VideoCD, SVCD, DVD, 3ivx, RealMedia, and DivX movies. Another big feature of MPlayer is the wide range of supported output drivers. It works with X11, Xv, DGA, OpenGL, SVGAlib, fbdev, DirectFB, The text above is copied from the existing mplayer package. It is The long description really needs a rewrite. Maybe ... but mentioning all those file formats _is_ pretty useful for 'apt-cache search' purposes. I know we're all supposed to use tags for such things now, but I find 'apt-cache search' a lot easier than figuring out what tag I should be looking for. -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110218201547.gd10...@p12n.org
Re: Bug#613806: ITP: mplayer2 -- next generation movie player for Unix-like systems
Peter Samuelson peter at p12n.org writes: Description : next generation movie player for Unix-like systems MPlayer plays most MPEG, VOB, AVI, Ogg/OGM, VIVO, ASF/WMA/WMV, QT/MOV/MP4, FLI, RM, NuppelVideo, yuv4mpeg, FILM, RoQ, PVA files, supported by many native, XAnim, RealPlayer, and Win32 DLL codecs. It can also play VideoCD, SVCD, DVD, 3ivx, RealMedia, and DivX movies. Another big feature of MPlayer is the wide range of supported output drivers. It works with X11, Xv, DGA, OpenGL, SVGAlib, fbdev, DirectFB, The text above is copied from the existing mplayer package. It is The long description really needs a rewrite. Maybe ... but mentioning all those file formats _is_ pretty useful for 'apt-cache search' purposes. I know we're all supposed to use tags for such things now, but I find 'apt-cache search' a lot easier than figuring out what tag I should be looking for. That file format list is missing at least one of the major container formats (Matroska). Some of the listed ones are very obscure; I think mentioning ability to play back various audio-specific formats (none of which are listed now) would be at least as important. The rest of the description is worse. The following codec section is meaningless and misleading (most codecs now come from libavcodec; I think about nobody uses XAnim for example). More than half the lines in the description are about video output drivers, and mostly list completely obscure features that very few will care about. The drivers you may reasonably want to use on Linux are VDPAU (missing from the description), OpenGL and XVideo. Plain X11 can be a fallback if your system doesn't support any proper video output method. The rest are mostly special cases and/or obscure unmaintained crap which doesn't belong in the package description. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/loom.20110218t224337-...@post.gmane.org
