Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies
On Oct 21, Lucas Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure that filing lots of bugs about missing Depends on update-inetd really delays the release. Chris Lamb is fixing those bugs faster than I file them anyway ;) WTF? Packages other than inetd daemons MUST NOT depend on update-inetd. Doing that is WRONG. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies
On 30/10/08 at 13:50 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Oct 21, Lucas Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure that filing lots of bugs about missing Depends on update-inetd really delays the release. Chris Lamb is fixing those bugs faster than I file them anyway ;) WTF? Packages other than inetd daemons MUST NOT depend on update-inetd. Doing that is WRONG. Are common maintainer scripts problems documented somewhere ? It would be very interesting to start a developers-reference chapter about such things. -- | Lucas Nussbaum | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/ | | jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 1024D/023B3F4F | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies
On 22/10/08 at 20:38 -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote: Pierre Habouzit wrote: On mar, oct 21, 2008 at 11:57:48 +, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mardi 21 octobre 2008 à 08:53 -0300, David Bremner a écrit : So downgrading bugs to non-RC severity (with appropriate rationale) does not count in the great cookie contest? Of course it does count; added to the rules in the wiki page. Does bribing lucas into not using grid5k anymore works too ? :) If everything goes the way I want it to be, it won't be just lucas the one filing reports: I asked lucas if he could do the remove/purge test in lenny I'll do that. and the full install/remove/purge test in etch (yeah, you know, there were some changes in etch since r0 that could make packages break). That's not going to be easy. Please choose randomly 100 packages that are in etch. Then run the test you want to run using piuparts, and check that you don't find any FP. Adapt piuparts if you find problems. Provide me with a (modified) piuparts that does the test correctly, a list of (binary) packages in etch that I should test, and an etch chroot (as a tarball) I can use to test into. IOW, please turn this from please fix piuparts for me to please provide computing power. -- | Lucas Nussbaum | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/ | | jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 1024D/023B3F4F | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies
Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 22/10/08 at 20:38 -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote: If everything goes the way I want it to be, it won't be just lucas the one filing reports: I asked lucas if he could do the remove/purge test in lenny I'll do that. Thanks :) and the full install/remove/purge test in etch (yeah, you know, there were some changes in etch since r0 that could make packages break). That's not going to be easy. Please choose randomly 100 packages that are in etch. Then run the test you want to run using piuparts, and check that you don't find any FP. Adapt piuparts if you find problems. Provide me with a (modified) piuparts that does the test correctly, a list of (binary) packages in etch that I should test, and an etch chroot (as a tarball) I can use to test into. IOW, please turn this from please fix piuparts for me to please provide computing power. Hmm, I wouldn't expect piuparts causing more FPs in etch than in lenny or sid; though I'll check some packages just make sure. Cheers, Raphael Geissert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies
Pierre Habouzit wrote: On mar, oct 21, 2008 at 11:57:48 +, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mardi 21 octobre 2008 à 08:53 -0300, David Bremner a écrit : So downgrading bugs to non-RC severity (with appropriate rationale) does not count in the great cookie contest? Of course it does count; added to the rules in the wiki page. Does bribing lucas into not using grid5k anymore works too ? :) If everything goes the way I want it to be, it won't be just lucas the one filing reports: I asked lucas if he could do the remove/purge test in lenny and the full install/remove/purge test in etch (yeah, you know, there were some changes in etch since r0 that could make packages break). [This is also a way to remind lucas about my email :)] Cheers, Raphael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies
Le mardi 21 octobre 2008 à 08:53 -0300, David Bremner a écrit : So downgrading bugs to non-RC severity (with appropriate rationale) does not count in the great cookie contest? Of course it does count; added to the rules in the wiki page. -- .''`. : :' : We are debian.org. Lower your prices, surrender your code. `. `' We will add your hardware and software distinctiveness to `-our own. Resistance is futile. signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée
Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies
At Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:43:01 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote Fixing a RC bug means either of: * Uploading a NMU that fixes the bug to unstable. * Convincing, with a mail that details the rationale, a release manager to tag the bug lenny-ignore. * Convincing, in a similar way, a release manager to remove the package from lenny. So downgrading bugs to non-RC severity (with appropriate rationale) does not count in the great cookie contest? d -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies
On mar, oct 21, 2008 at 11:57:48 +, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mardi 21 octobre 2008 à 08:53 -0300, David Bremner a écrit : So downgrading bugs to non-RC severity (with appropriate rationale) does not count in the great cookie contest? Of course it does count; added to the rules in the wiki page. Does bribing lucas into not using grid5k anymore works too ? :) -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpt45yCrpRX8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 02:11:04PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Does bribing lucas into not using grid5k anymore works too ? :) Definitely! Please add it to the rules :) -- Stefano Zacchiroli -*- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 [EMAIL PROTECTED],pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è sempre /oo\ All one has to do is hit the right uno zaino-- A.Bergonzoni \__/ keys at the right time -- J.S.Bach signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies
Josselin Mouette wrote: we are currently very close to release lenny which is most likely going to be absolutely awesome. However, there are currently around 100 RC bugs remaining Apologies if this has already been brought up. Using the number RC bugs that a present in lenny and sid is--in my opinion--a rather misleading metric of bugs that require attention for lenny. This isn't just semantics; one obvious set of bugs that are missed here are bugs that are only present in the upstream version correspending to the version in lenny. We clearly care about these bugs. Another example is that a fix that was uploaded to unstable and unblocked for migration to lenny but it subsequently FTBFS on some arch. Here, even if an explicit FTBFS bug is filed, it will only affects the version in sid and will thus does not appear when applying the bydist=both predicate. I've found bugs in this category require considerably more work than others, not only because they are typically indicative of a more serious problem, but also because they require some syncing with -release and the use of non-mainstream architectures. Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies
On 21/10/08 at 14:11 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: On mar, oct 21, 2008 at 11:57:48 +, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mardi 21 octobre 2008 à 08:53 -0300, David Bremner a écrit : So downgrading bugs to non-RC severity (with appropriate rationale) does not count in the great cookie contest? Of course it does count; added to the rules in the wiki page. Does bribing lucas into not using grid5k anymore works too ? :) I'm not sure that filing lots of bugs about missing Depends on update-inetd really delays the release. Chris Lamb is fixing those bugs faster than I file them anyway ;) -- | Lucas Nussbaum | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/ | | jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 1024D/023B3F4F | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Depending on update-inetd [was: Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies]
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 14:39 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: I'm not sure that filing lots of bugs about missing Depends on update-inetd really delays the release. Chris Lamb is fixing those bugs faster than I file them anyway ;) You mean like this one? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=502706 Can I refer to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=466114 and http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/07/msg01013.html One thing I have noticed about this is that update-inetd contains /usr/share/perl5/DebianNet.pm, but other implementations don't, so what should a package using the perl interface do? Thanks, James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies
Stefano Zacchiroli dijo [Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 07:50:59AM -0500]: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 02:11:04PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Does bribing lucas into not using grid5k anymore works too ? :) Definitely! Please add it to the rules :) Can Lucas be bribed with cookies? I always noticed some resemblance between him and http://tinyurl.com/fix-RC-now Greetings, -- Gunnar Wolf - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (+52-55)5623-0154 / 1451-2244 PGP key 1024D/8BB527AF 2001-10-23 Fingerprint: 0C79 D2D1 2C4E 9CE4 5973 F800 D80E F35A 8BB5 27AF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
