Re: Bugs which do not belong to console-setup

2014-08-13 Thread Tomas Pospisek
Am 07.08.2014 12:32, schrieb Anton Zinoviev:

 I have two bugs reported against console-setup about keybord not working 
 properly under X Window.  In both cases I have asked the reportes to 
 provide the file /etc/default/keyboard and in both cases the file was 
 correct.  Therefore, the bugs are not related to console-setup in any 
 way.
 
 Unfortunately X Window and the various desktop environments are 
 something I don't understand well enough, so I have no idea where to 
 reassign these bugs.  In result, at the moment both bugs are completely 
 ignored.
 
 Please advise what should I do in such cases.
 
 The bugs are: 
 #709883 - reported 14 months ago and #724869 - reported 10 months ago.

Wrt. #709883 the original bug reporter (OBR) wrote:

 [...]
 I tried with gdm3/ligthdm/only startx, and the problems is still
 here. It seems related to X or udev since the upgrade, because gnome
 is well set and gives a french keyboard (macbook pro one), and for
 awesome, my main wm, i have to setxkbmap fr in ~/.xsession to get a
 french keyboard layout
 [...]
 I'm still trying to figure out how to get french back at dm greeter

So most window managers and login managers don't get the keyboard right,
however gnome does.

The correct/wrong keyboard setup/information must come from *somewhere*,
but from where?

So one thing the OBR could do to figure out what's going on is to
strace -f startx and the gnome startup, figure out which files are
being accessed (only stat, open and mmap calls are of interest I guess)
and then compare the produced lists.

Otherwise, if nobody can figure out what's going on, or the OBR doesn't
care any more either the OBR or the console-setup maintainers can decide
to close the bug, since no way forward can be made unless there's more
info. Or leave it open.

HTH a bit,
*t


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Re: Bugs which do not belong to console-setup

2014-08-07 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Anton Zinoviev an...@lml.bas.bg (2014-08-07):
 Hi!
 
 I have two bugs reported against console-setup about keybord not working 
 properly under X Window.  In both cases I have asked the reportes to 
 provide the file /etc/default/keyboard and in both cases the file was 
 correct.  Therefore, the bugs are not related to console-setup in any 
 way.
 
 Unfortunately X Window and the various desktop environments are 
 something I don't understand well enough, so I have no idea where to 
 reassign these bugs.  In result, at the moment both bugs are completely 
 ignored.
 
 Please advise what should I do in such cases.
 
 The bugs are: 
 #709883 - reported 14 months ago and #724869 - reported 10 months ago.

As a general rule (and without looking at those particular bug reports),
back when I maintained X, I asked reporters to run a bare X session,
meaning without a display manager and without a desktop session. gdm3
(or whatever component behind, handling settings) has been the culprit
several times already, replacing the system settings with other settings
based on user language. (See #590534 for an old example.)

Comparing the output of setxkbmap -print from a bare X session and
from $desktop_environment is usually a nice place to start from.

Mraw,
KiBi.


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