Re: Consequences of the removal of Experimental.
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 10:57:17PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 07:56:13PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > > This assumes that experimental is used by a lot of people, which I > > > doubt, especially given the default apt pins and the numbers above. > > Le Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 10:08:20AM +0100, Mark Brown a écrit : > > There's also the fact that if you remove experimental it's easy enough > > for people to set up their apt repositories somewhere if they want to > > provide packages outside of unstable. > > but they would lose the autobuilding from buildd.net. which doesn't work properly anyways. The experimental buildd network is at best a joke. Let's take the glibc 2.6 for example: quoting http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/glibc.html: [2007-05-30] Accepted 2.6-0exp2 in experimental (low) (Aurelien Jarno) I'll let you check in http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/ that only the amd64 binary is present. It's the architecture Aurélien used to upload. It was 2 weeks ago. And I'm sure other examples exist. The experimental uploads of the glibc are very useful to check that the libc builds and passes the testsuite properly. If we have to wait for 2 weeks to have an answer to that test (and it's a still running counter for now) then it's already useless anyways. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgptBVuSgr1ia.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Consequences of the removal of Experimental.
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 10:57:17PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: >>> There's also the fact that if you remove experimental it's easy enough >>> for people to set up their apt repositories somewhere if they want to >>> provide packages outside of unstable. >> but they would lose the autobuilding from buildd.net. buildd.net is only a frontend to some buildd data, it has nothing to do with the experimental autobuilders. > which doesn't work properly anyways. The experimental buildd network > is at best a joke. Let's take the glibc 2.6 for example: glibc is a special case and usually breaks the mail limit on most hosts. I'm still waiting for the local admin (... Ganneff) to fix the max mail size to actually see glibc build logs. I'm also waiting to move the wanna-build for experimental to another host, were it can finally be properly updated so that versions containing ~ don't fuck up the version comparision (which is the reason for you getting #425784, but not trying any newer version). Marc -- BOFH #163: no "any" key on keyboard pgp5H6UUG8ZAX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Consequences of the removal of Experimental.
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:07:14 +0200, Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 10:57:17PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: >> but they would lose the autobuilding from buildd.net. > > which doesn't work properly anyways. The experimental buildd network >is at best a joke. Just for the record: exim4 4.67-2, uploaded to experimental, was promptly built by the buildd network. btw, please test exim4 4.67-2 ;) Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom " | http://www.zugschlus.de/ Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 621 72739834
