Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!

2001-01-06 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 01:05:17AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
 Happy new year from this side of the world,
 
 On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 01:06:18PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Three packages (w3mir, webmin, and fancylogin) that were definitely
  available in Debian main some time ago, and that are still present
  in the BTS (all have outstanding bugs), COMPLETELY DISAPPEARED from
  Debian.
 
 webmin:
 ] Subject: webmin_0.80-1_i386.changes REJECTED
 ]  Depends: perl5, debconf, libnet-ssleay-perl
 ]   ^^
 ] libnet-ssleay-perl is in non-US, packages in main may not depend on
 ] packages outside of main.  This package belongs in either contrib or
 ] non-US/main.
 
 The other two were also deliberately removed, dunno why offhand.

Well there are always reasons for packages to been removed. I can only
answer for webmin. I uploaded the 0.80-1 version and it was placed in
main (it should be in non-US). But that is not the reason why it was
removed because I just had to upload a new version and ask somebody to
change the override file.

The reason is that Jaldhar is about adopt them (he have a better
packaging structure) and he is working on it. For more webmin status
see some other threads on this list. :)

To upload the new webmin packages the orginal webmin package had
to be removed so thats why. I think webmin is about to be released
soon, but he'll know better than I do.

// Ola

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Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!

2001-01-04 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 01:09:07PM +, Oliver Elphick wrote:
Peter Palfrader wrote:
   There is a further weird package disappearance in unstable: all mgetty
   packages (execept mgetty-doc) are gone!
[...]
   Hey, these are important packages.
  
  mgetty is not important, it's extra.
 
That may be, but where has it gone?

mgetty* got bitten by an old [pre-pool] dinstall bug, where uploads
without unstable in the changelog disappear from unstable:

  mgetty (1.1.21-3) stable; urgency=low

* make mgetty-fax's postinst create /var/spool/fax/outgoing/.last_run
  to close a potential symlink exploit by members of the fax group
  that is otherwise possible until that file is created

   -- Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:05:13 +0100

See http://bugs.debian.org/77585 .

Regards,
-- 
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Compusol Pty. Limited  (NSW, Australia)  +61 2 9810 3633




rsync'ing pools (Was: Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!)

2001-01-01 Thread Goswin Brederlow
   == Tinguaro Barreno Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Hello again.

  On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 02:22:45PM +, Miquel van
  Smoorenburg wrote:
  Yes. The structure of the archive has changed because of
 'package pools'.  You need to mirror 'pool' as well.
 
 Also, woody is no longer unstable. sid is. woody is
 testing.
 
 Mike.
 

  Ok. Thanks to Peter Palfrader too. Then, there is a more
  complicated issue for those who has a partial mirror (only i386
  for me), but I think that is possible with rsync options.

There was a script posted here to do partial rsync mirrors.

I used that script and added several features to it. Whats missing is
support for the debian-installed in sid, but I'm working on that.

Changes:
- multiple architectures
- keep links from woody - potato
- mirror binary-all
- mirror US and non-US pools
- use last version as template for new files
- mirror disks

People intrested in only one arch and only woody/sid should remove
binary-all and should resolve links.

Joey, can you put that where it originally came from? or next to the
original script? Any changes to the script from your side?

So heres the script for all who care:

--
#!/bin/sh -e
# Anon rsync partial mirror of Debian with package pool support.
# Copyright 1999, 2000 by Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED], GPL'd.
# Add ons by Goswin Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED]

# update potato/woody files and Packages.gz or use old once? If you
# already have the new enough once say yes. This is for cases when you
# restart a scan after the modem died.
# No is the save answere here, but wastes bandwith when resumeing.
HAVE_PACKAGE_FILES=no

# Should a contents file kept updated? Saying NO won't delete old
# Contents files, so when resuming you might want to say no here
# temporarily.
CONTENTS=yes

# Flags to pass to rsync. More can be specified on the command line.
# These flags are always passed to rsync:
FLAGS=$@ -rlpt --partial -v --progress
# These flags are not passed in when we are getting files from pools.
# In particular, --delete is a horrid idea at that point, but good here.
FLAGS_NOPOOL=$FLAGS --exclude Packages --delete
# And these flags are passed in only when we are getting files from pools.
# Remember, do _not_ include --delete.
FLAGS_POOL=$FLAGS
# The host to connect to. Currently must carry both non-us and main
# and support anon rsync, which limits the options somewhat.
HOST=ftp.de.debian.org
# Where to put the mirror (absolute path, please):
DEST=/mnt/raid/rsync-mirror/debian
# The distribution to mirror:
DISTS=sid potato woody
# Architecture to mirror:
ARCHS=i386 alpha m68k
# Should source be mirrored too?
SOURCE=yes
# The sections to mirror (main, non-free, etc):
SECTIONS=main contrib non-free
# Should symlinks be generated to every deb, in an all directory?
# I find this is very handy to ease looking up deb filenames.
SYMLINK_FARM=no

###

mkdir -p $DEST/dists $DEST/pool

# Snarf the contents file.
if [ $CONTENTS = yes ]; then
for DIST in ${DISTS}; do
for ARCH in ${ARCHS}; do
echo Syncing  $DEST/dists/${DIST}/Contents-${ARCH}.gz
rsync $FLAGS_NOPOOL \
$HOST::debian/dists/$DIST/Contents-${ARCH}.gz \
$DEST/dists/${DIST}/
echo Syncing  
$DEST/non-US/dists/${DIST}/non-US/Contents-${ARCH}.gz
rsync $FLAGS_NOPOOL \

$HOST::debian-non-US/dists/$DIST/non-US/Contents-${ARCH}.gz \
$DEST/non-US/dists/${DIST}/non-US/
done
done
fi

# Generate list of archs to download
ARCHLIST=binary-all
DISKS_ARCHLIST=
NONUS_ARCHLIST=binary-all

for ARCH in ${ARCHS}; do
ARCHLIST=${ARCHLIST} binary-${ARCH}
DISKS_ARCHLIST=${DISKS_ARCHLIST} disks-${ARCH}
NONUS_ARCHLIST=${NONUS_ARCHLIST} binary-${ARCH}
done

if [ $SOURCE = yes ]; then
ARCHLIST=${ARCHLIST} source
NONUS_ARCHLIST=${NONUS_ARCHLIST} source
fi

# Download packages files (and .debs and sources too, until we move fully
# to pools).

if [ x$HAVE_PACKAGE_FILES != xyes ]; then
for DIST in ${DISTS}; do
for section in $SECTIONS; do
for type in ${ARCHLIST}; do
echo Syncing  $DEST/dists/$DIST/$section/$type
mkdir -p $DEST/dists/$DIST/$section/$type
rsync $FLAGS_NOPOOL \
$HOST::debian/dists/$DIST/$section/$type \
$DEST/dists/$DIST/$section/
done
if [ $section = main ]; then
  if [ $DIST != sid ]; then
for type in ${DISKS_ARCHLIST}; do
echo Syncing  $DEST/dists/$DIST/$section/$type
mkdir -p $DEST/dists/$DIST/$section/$type
rsync $FLAGS_NOPOOL \
$HOST::debian/dists/$DIST/$section/$type \

Re: rsync'ing pools (Was: Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!)

2001-01-01 Thread Joey Hess
Goswin Brederlow wrote:
 Joey, can you put that where it originally came from? or next to the
 original script? Any changes to the script from your side?

This is much more complicated than anything I want to maintain. I'm
looking forward to making my mirror script simpler as the pool
situations stabalizes actually.

Once more, the url for my most recent version is
http://cvs.kitenet.net/joey-cvs/bin/debmirror

-- 
see shy jo




Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!

2000-12-31 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi GBechly!

SCHREI NICHT SO!

On Sun, 31 Dec 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am very sorry for the loud subject of my mail (I know it is bad
 netiquette), but since I got no satisfying answer on my first mail
 concerning disappeared packages and because the issue is important
 I decided to try it again with shouting ;-).

*plonk*


 Three packages (w3mir, webmin, and fancylogin) that were definitely
 available in Debian main some time ago, and that are still present
 in the BTS (all have outstanding bugs), COMPLETELY DISAPPEARED from
 Debian. Any search with Search Package Directories on the Debian
 website failed to produce a result: w3mir and webmin are neither in
 unstable, nor in testing or stable.

http://bugs.debian.org/75772

| #67768: w3mir: Can delete all files!
| Package: w3mir; Severity: critical; Reported by: John Goerzen [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]; 157 days old.
given that bug I'ld guess w3mir was removed too. Just a guess tho.


 Fancylogin is reported to be in
 unstable and there also is a package page, but the package is not 
 found from the download page and is also not present in any of
 the mirrors.

marvin:~# apt-get install fancylogin
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Package fancylogin has no available version, but exists in the database.
This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and 
never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents 
of sources.list
However the following packages replace it:
  francine 
E: Package fancylogin has no installation candidate
  

 There is a further weird package disappearance in unstable: all mgetty
 packages (execept mgetty-doc) are gone!

http://bugs.debian.org/80640


 Hey, these are important packages.

mgetty is not important, it's extra.


yours,
peter

-- 
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-- Terry Pratchett




Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!

2000-12-31 Thread Oliver Elphick
Peter Palfrader wrote:
   There is a further weird package disappearance in unstable: all mgetty
   packages (execept mgetty-doc) are gone!
  
  http://bugs.debian.org/80640
  
  
   Hey, these are important packages.
  
  mgetty is not important, it's extra.
 
That may be, but where has it gone?

Apparently libperl5.6 has disappeared as well.

Again there is a pointer from packages.debian.org, but the deb is not
in the directory pointed to.


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  thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto 
  you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do 
  good to them that hate you, and pray for them which 
  despitefully use you, and persecute you;  
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Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!

2000-12-31 Thread Dr. Guenter Bechly
Hi,

On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 01:46:20PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
 SCHREI NICHT SO!

German personal answer
Vielen Dank für Deine prompte und ausführliche Antwort. Wenn Du
auf mein erstes (ungeschriehenes) Mail zum selben Thema so
geantwortet hättest, dann hätte ich jetzt nicht schreien müssen.
Also hat es ja immerhin funktioniert ;-)
/German personal answer

  I am very sorry for the loud subject of my mail (I know it is bad
  netiquette), but since I got no satisfying answer on my first mail
  concerning disappeared packages and because the issue is important
  I decided to try it again with shouting ;-).
 
 *plonk*

*Whine*: That's not a really suited comment, regarding the given explanation.

 http://bugs.debian.org/75772

Since the submitter of this Bug claimed that webmin belongs to contrib
rather than main, and that the package was accidently uploaded inspite of
an ITP, this bug should also have been filed against webmin, since it is
otherwise hardly possible to easily find this explanation about the removal
of webmin.

 | #67768: w3mir: Can delete all files!
 given that bug I'ld guess w3mir was removed too. Just a guess tho.

Well, I thought so myself. But the real problem is that neither me, nor
apparently you could find out what really happened. This seems to be a
shortcoming in Debian's removal procedures. I suggest that the intent to
remove a package should always be filed as a bug to this package or even
better as a bug to wnpp-peudopackage, so that the information can be
traced with reasonable efforts. Would it be o.k. to file this suggestion
as a wishlist bug against ftp.debian.org?

 E: Package fancylogin has no installation candidate

I know this, but this does not explain what happened to this package
that once existed. There is a bug #69002 filed against fancylogin which
might be the reason for its removal. Here the same applies that I said
above about w3mir. It should be possible to easily find out if and why
a package was removed by checking its bugs or wnpp.

  There is a further weird package disappearance in unstable: all mgetty
  packages (execept mgetty-doc) are gone!
 
 http://bugs.debian.org/80640

Oops, I did not check the BTS again. That is really my stupid fault, - sorry.
However, this bug was filed AFTER my first mail to this list, where I asked
concerning the disappeared packages of mgetty and nobody answered.

  Hey, these are important packages.
 
 mgetty is not important, it's extra.

That is a bit nitty-gritty, don't you think? I did not talk about the
position in Debian (I of course know its Extra), but about the importance
of these packages.

Kind greetings,
Guenter

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Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!

2000-12-31 Thread Tinguaro Barreno Delgado
On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 01:06:18PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am very sorry for the loud subject of my mail (I know it is bad
 netiquette), but since I got no satisfying answer on my first mail
 concerning disappeared packages and because the issue is important
 I decided to try it again with shouting ;-).
 
 Here is the problem:
 Three packages (w3mir, webmin, and fancylogin) that were definitely
 available in Debian main some time ago, and that are still present

Hello all.

  I maintain a rsync mirror of potato and woody (i386) and this week the
distribution has lost +50 packages. They aren't in ftp.debian.org (I'm
rsyncing from ftp.de.debian.org). Can anyone explain this?

The week log says:


   --- Last Dec. 29 ---
Fri Dec 29 22:39:22 WET 2000
receiving file list ... done
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/web/aolserver_3.2-2.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/web/aolserver-postgres_3.2-2.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/utils/unison_2.6.1-1.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/utils/gnome-pim_1.2.0-1.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/utils/gnome-pim-conduits_1.2.0-1.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/utils/bootcd_1-6.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/misc/geneweb_3.08-1.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/math/netcdf-perl_1.2.1-1.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/libs/libgnomemm1.1_1.1.12-1.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/interpreters/perl-5.6-doc_5.6.0-6.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/interpreters/libset-object-perl_1.02-2.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/interpreters/libio-pty-perl_0.03-1.deb
deleting 
dists/woody/main/binary-i386/interpreters/libapache-auth-ldap_1.4.6-2.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/games/xemeraldia_0.3-19.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/devel/libgnomemm-dev_1.1.12-1.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/devel/aolserver-dev_3.2-2.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-all/web/catalog_1.02-2.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-all/doc/aolserver-doc_3.2-2.deb

Fri Dec 29 00:29:59 WET 2000
receiving file list ... done
deleting dists/woody/non-free/binary-i386/net/tnt_2.3-1.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/sound/grip_2.95-2.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/sound/gcd_2.95-2.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/misc/memopanel_7.1-1.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/libs/libperl5.6_5.6.0-6.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/interpreters/perl-5.6_5.6.0-6.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/interpreters/perl-5.6-thread_5.6.0-6.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/interpreters/perl-5.6-suid_5.6.0-6.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/interpreters/perl-5.6-debug_5.6.0-6.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/graphics/libgd-perl_1.30-4.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/editors/vim-rt_5.7.002-2.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/devel/kdbg_1.1.7-beta1-1.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/base/perl-5.6-base_5.6.0-6.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/admin/pcmcia-source_3.1.22-3.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-all/interpreters/perl-5.6-doc_5.6.0-6.deb

  --- Last Dec 28 --
Thu Dec 28 08:51:29 WET 2000
receiving file list ... done
deleting dists/woody/non-free/binary-i386/games/xinvaders_2.1.1.deb
deleting dists/woody/non-free/binary-all/net/tnt_2.3-1.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/x11/wdm_1.20-5.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/x11/vat_4.0b2-9.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/x11/nautilus_0.5-2.1.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/utils/tpctl_1.0-1.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/utils/tpctl-modules-source_1.0-1.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/sound/xmms-osd-plugin_0.3.0-3.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/net/atftpd_0.1.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/net/atftp_0.1.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/mail/mutt_1.2.5-5.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/libs/libxosd_0.3.0-3.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/libs/libnautilus0_0.5-2.1.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/interpreters/libnet-acl-ruby_1.0-2.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/interpreters/guile-common_1.4-5.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/games/liquidwar-data_5.3.2-1.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/editors/vim_5.7.002-2.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/editors/vim-tiny_5.7.002-2.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/editors/vim-tcl_5.7.002-2.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/editors/vim-python_5.7.002-2.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/editors/vim-perl_5.7.002-2.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/editors/vim-gtk_5.7.002-2.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/devel/libxosd-dev_0.3.0-3.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/devel/libnautilus-dev_0.5-2.1.deb
deleting dists/woody/main/binary-i386/base/pcmcia-modules-2.2.17_3.1.22-3k1.deb
deleting 
dists/woody/main/binary-i386/base/pcmcia-modules-2.2.17-idepci_3.1.22-3k0.1.deb
deleting 

Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!

2000-12-31 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Tinguaro Barreno Delgado  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I maintain a rsync mirror of potato and woody (i386) and this week the
distribution has lost +50 packages. They aren't in ftp.debian.org (I'm
rsyncing from ftp.de.debian.org). Can anyone explain this?

Yes. The structure of the archive has changed because of 'package pools'.
You need to mirror 'pool' as well.

Also, woody is no longer unstable. sid is. woody is testing.

Mike.




Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!

2000-12-31 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 01:06:18PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am very sorry for the loud subject of my mail (I know it is bad
 netiquette), but since I got no satisfying answer on my first mail
 concerning disappeared packages and because the issue is important
 I decided to try it again with shouting ;-).

One deserves a plonk for doing that :p

 Fancylogin is reported to be in unstable and there also is a package page,
 but the package is not found from the download page and is also not
 present in any of the mirrors.

This is an often-seen problem with packages.d.o web pages: even when
packages are removed from the archive, their HTMLs stay, until manual
deletion. We oughta cook up a script to handle that, but nobody has bothered
yet...

However, we have a different problem right now: mirror on master.d.o is not
getting updated regularly due to lack of disk space on that particular
partition, and the packages.d.o web pages scripts generate the HTMLs
according to that mirror. So some links are outdated and will get more and
more outdated if this is not fixed. Admins have been informed already, but
this is hardly a season when everyone's alert and ready to fix stuff
instantly. :/ And then there's the Cabal issue, of course. ;) TINC. :)

-- 
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Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!

2000-12-31 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi Tinguaro!

On Sun, 31 Dec 2000, Tinguaro Barreno Delgado wrote:

 Hello all.
 
   I maintain a rsync mirror of potato and woody (i386) and this week the
 distribution has lost +50 packages. They aren't in ftp.debian.org (I'm
 rsyncing from ftp.de.debian.org). Can anyone explain this?

Have you checked in the debian/pool dir?

Also read:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce-0012/msg4.html

yours,
peter

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Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!

2000-12-31 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi Oliver!

On Sun, 31 Dec 2000, Oliver Elphick wrote:

 Peter Palfrader wrote:
There is a further weird package disappearance in unstable: all mgetty
packages (execept mgetty-doc) are gone!
   
   http://bugs.debian.org/80640
   
   
Hey, these are important 
 packages.
   
   mgetty is not important, it's extra.
  
 That may be, but where has it gone?
 
 Apparently libperl5.6 has disappeared as well.

No it hasn't.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show libperl5.6
[..]
Filename: pool/main/p/perl-5.6/libperl5.6_5.6.0-6.2_i386.deb


 Again there is a pointer from packages.debian.org, but the deb is not
 in the directory pointed to.

Seems like packages.debian.org is broken then. If it's not reportet yet,
maybe someone should do.

yours,
peter

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Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!

2000-12-31 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi Guenter,

On Sun, 31 Dec 2000, Dr. Guenter Bechly wrote:

 I suggest that the intent to
 remove a package should always be filed as a bug to this package or even
 better as a bug to wnpp-peudopackage, so that the information can be
 traced with reasonable efforts. Would it be o.k. to file this suggestion
 as a wishlist bug against ftp.debian.org?

FWIF I'ld really like to see removal of packages beeing announced to
debian-devel-changes and debian-changes repectivly. Maybe we could
bug the ftp admins to send such mails?

yours,
peter



  *plonk*
 
 *Whine*: That's not a really suited comment, regarding the given explanation.

Should have been *patsch* anyway. However I don't think your 'explanation'
I know the netiquette but I don't care because this is so important is
acceptable. Also note that all caps is usually spam and many might filter
such stuff.


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Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!

2000-12-31 Thread Anthony Towns
Happy new year from this side of the world,

On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 01:06:18PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Three packages (w3mir, webmin, and fancylogin) that were definitely
 available in Debian main some time ago, and that are still present
 in the BTS (all have outstanding bugs), COMPLETELY DISAPPEARED from
 Debian.

webmin:
] Subject: webmin_0.80-1_i386.changes REJECTED
]  Depends: perl5, debconf, libnet-ssleay-perl
]   ^^
] libnet-ssleay-perl is in non-US, packages in main may not depend on
] packages outside of main.  This package belongs in either contrib or
] non-US/main.

The other two were also deliberately removed, dunno why offhand.

Cheers,
aj

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Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!

2000-12-31 Thread Colin Watson
Peter Palfrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi GBechly!
 Fancylogin is reported to be in
 unstable and there also is a package page, but the package is not 
 found from the download page and is also not present in any of
 the mirrors.

marvin:~# apt-get install fancylogin
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Package fancylogin has no available version, but exists in the database.
This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and 
never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents 
of sources.list
However the following packages replace it:
  francine 
E: Package fancylogin has no installation candidate

IIRC the upstream maintainer asked the Debian maintainer to remove the
package (I don't know why - some sort of dispute?), so the Debian
maintainer forked and called the new package francine.

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Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!

2000-12-31 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 03:40:41PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
  Again there is a pointer from packages.debian.org, but the deb is not
  in the directory pointed to.
 
 Seems like packages.debian.org is broken then. If it's not reportet yet,
 maybe someone should do.

It is! Several times!

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Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!

2000-12-31 Thread Guenter Bechly
Hello again,

On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 03:50:52PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
 FWIF I'ld really like to see removal of packages beeing announced to
 debian-devel-changes and debian-changes repectivly. Maybe we could
 bug the ftp admins to send such mails?

Agree. Will you do it, or shall I ?

 Should have been *patsch* anyway. However I don't think your 'explanation'
 I know the netiquette but I don't care because this is so important is
 acceptable. Also note that all caps is usually spam and many might filter
 such stuff.

O.k., I accept the *patsch* as deserved, and make the New Year's promise not
to post shouting mails again.

Cheers,
Guenter

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Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!

2000-12-31 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi Josip!

On Sun, 31 Dec 2000, Josip Rodin wrote:

 On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 03:40:41PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
   Again there is a pointer from packages.debian.org, but the deb is not
   in the directory pointed to.
  
  Seems like packages.debian.org is broken then. If it's not reportet yet,
  maybe someone should do.
 
 It is! Several times!

So onece more cannot do any harm, eh?

/me runs
yours,
peter

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Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!

2000-12-31 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi Guenter!

On Sun, 31 Dec 2000, Guenter Bechly wrote:

 Hello again,
 
 On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 03:50:52PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
  FWIF I'ld really like to see removal of packages beeing announced to
  debian-devel-changes and debian-changes repectivly. Maybe we could
  bug the ftp admins to send such mails?
 
 Agree. Will you do it, or shall I ?

You file the wishlistbug against ftp. and I bug the admins, deal?

yours,
peter

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Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!

2000-12-31 Thread Dr. Guenter Bechly
Hi Peter,

On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 05:01:13PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
 You file the wishlistbug against ftp. and I bug the admins, deal?

Deal is deal!

Best wishes,
Guenter

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Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!

2000-12-31 Thread Tinguaro Barreno Delgado

Hello again.

On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 02:22:45PM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
 
 Yes. The structure of the archive has changed because of 'package pools'.
 You need to mirror 'pool' as well.
 
 Also, woody is no longer unstable. sid is. woody is testing.
 
 Mike.
 

Ok. Thanks to Peter Palfrader too. Then, there is a more complicated issue
for those who has a partial mirror (only i386 for me), but I think that
is possible with rsync options.


Best wishes,

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