Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 02:03:50PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 11:59:30AM +0200, Christian Surchi wrote: > > From Netcraft newsletter and web site: > > > > Debian Linux distribution 10 years old today > > > > http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/16/debian_linux_distribution_10_years_old_today.html > > > > I'm not so sure about the value of their Debian geographical > > distribution, maybe... :-) > I'm not even sure how they derive that information, Debian's Apache might > provide it in the banner information (Since when? BTW, has this always been > the case?) but many other web servers in Debian won't. This might not be > completely relevant however (since the web server market is dominated by > two products at the moment). Maybe they just connect to port 22 of all the machines, and read the sshd banner? -- Paul "TBBle" Hampson
Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft
gwolf writes: > >Isn't Netcraft CCCP-based? If so, I think it is right - The 'former Iron >Curtain' countries (if I understand correctly, meaning 'the countries >that were behind te Iron Curtain' include Germany(west), France, USA, >UK and the Netherlands :-) No. From http://news.netcraft.com/archives/about_netcraft.html: ... Netcraft is an Internet services company based in Bath, England. ... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] Getting a SCSI chain working is perfectly simple if you remember that there must be exactly three terminations: one on one end of the cable, one on the far end, and the goat, terminated over the SCSI chain with a silver-handled knife whilst burning *black* candles. --- Anthony DeBoer
Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 02:03:50PM +0200, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a wrote: > I'm not even sure how they derive that information, Debian's Apache might > provide it in the banner information (Since when? BTW, has this always been > the case?) but many other web servers in Debian won't. This might not be > completely relevant however (since the web server market is dominated by > two products at the moment). > > But, of course, you (can?) always lie with statistics [1] netcraft have some very clever means of discovering such information, from what I've heard (which isn't much). I used to know someone who worked there but he was very tight-lipped. I would imagine its far more sophisticated than looking at the web server's banner info. -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/
Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 11:59:30AM +0200, Christian Surchi wrote: > From Netcraft newsletter and web site: > > Debian Linux distribution 10 years old today > > http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/16/debian_linux_distribution_10_years_old_today.html > > I'm not so sure about the value of their Debian geographical > distribution, maybe... :-) Champagne ! Cheers, -- Pierre Machard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://debian.org GPG: 1024D/23706F87 : B906 A53F 84E0 49B6 6CF7 82C2 B3A0 2D66 2370 6F87 pgpKV8Su5NZeh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 01:36:02PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > So the two major "former Iron Curtain" countries seem to be France and > Germany.. :-) Maybe they meant to say "Old Europe". >8-) /me goes to a priest to have the evil spirit of Donald Rumsfeld exorcised -- G. Branden Robinson| It's not a matter of alienating Debian GNU/Linux | authors. They have every right to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | license their software however we http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | like. -- Craig Sanders pgpXQYNagpGdH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft
Christian Perrier dijo [Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 01:36:02PM +0200]: > Wow.According to this chart, about a third of hosts running Debian > are in France.. :-) > > For sure, several major web hosting and Internet Access Providers run > Debian hosts for their key servers herebut I think this graph is > somewhat wrong anyway.. > > I like "having a significant following in the former Iron Curtain > countries". So the two major "former Iron Curtain" countries seem to > be France and Germany.. :-) Isn't Netcraft CCCP-based? If so, I think it is right - The 'former Iron Curtain' countries (if I understand correctly, meaning 'the countries that were behind te Iron Curtain' include Germany(west), France, USA, UK and the Netherlands :-) -- Gunnar Wolf - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (+52-55)5630-9700 ext. 1366 PGP key 1024D/8BB527AF 2001-10-23 Fingerprint: 0C79 D2D1 2C4E 9CE4 5973 F800 D80E F35A 8BB5 27AF
Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft
Citat Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Quoting Christian Surchi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > From Netcraft newsletter and web site: > > > > Debian Linux distribution 10 years old today > > > > > http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/16/debian_linux_distribution_10_years_old_today.html > > > > I'm not so sure about the value of their Debian geographical > > distribution, maybe... :-) > > Wow.According to this chart, about a third of hosts running Debian > are in France.. :-) I know that one of the major search site portals (and one of their major sites is in France) uses Debian Woody. Regards, Martin List-Petersen martin at list-petersen dot se -- BOFH excuse #260: We're upgrading /dev/null
Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft
On Thursday 21 August 2003 13:36, Christian Perrier wrote: > I like "having a significant following in the former Iron Curtain > countries". So the two major "former Iron Curtain" countries seem to > be France and Germany.. :-) Well, part of Germany was on the far side of the Iron Curtain regardless of which side you are on. HTH -- vbi -- featured link: http://www.pool.ntp.org pgpBkU57BueYG.pgp Description: signature
Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 11:59:30AM +0200, Christian Surchi wrote: > From Netcraft newsletter and web site: > > Debian Linux distribution 10 years old today > > http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/16/debian_linux_distribution_10_years_old_today.html > > I'm not so sure about the value of their Debian geographical > distribution, maybe... :-) > I'm not even sure how they derive that information, Debian's Apache might provide it in the banner information (Since when? BTW, has this always been the case?) but many other web servers in Debian won't. This might not be completely relevant however (since the web server market is dominated by two products at the moment). But, of course, you (can?) always lie with statistics [1] Regards Javi [1] "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." Attributed to: Benjamin Disraeli (1804-1881) For laughs, read http://www4.gvsu.edu/robbinsd/courses/pa611/readings/felbinger.PDF or http://www.statistics.com/content/lying/teresi.html (fresh from Google but reordered since I find the first one best) pgp4g8gSTJAeh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft
Quoting Christian Surchi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > From Netcraft newsletter and web site: > > Debian Linux distribution 10 years old today > > http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/16/debian_linux_distribution_10_years_old_today.html > > I'm not so sure about the value of their Debian geographical > distribution, maybe... :-) Wow.According to this chart, about a third of hosts running Debian are in France.. :-) For sure, several major web hosting and Internet Access Providers run Debian hosts for their key servers herebut I think this graph is somewhat wrong anyway.. I like "having a significant following in the former Iron Curtain countries". So the two major "former Iron Curtain" countries seem to be France and Germany.. :-)
