Re: Debian Press update

2002-04-16 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Lasse Karrainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-16 05:14]:
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 Why doesn't that surprise me?

 Hi!   (it's my first post here)

 And hopefully your last.

 You are probably sick and tired of this topic, but ...
 IT'S A QUARTER YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF 4.2.0 RELEASE!

 Grats, you did a well job at watching the calendar.

 Time to throw some gasoline on the flames ... Branden apparently is
 incapable of releasing it.

 Nope, he isn't.  You are incapable of understanding the issue.

 So, I suggest that anyone, with enough knowledge and TIME, reading
 this, would volunteer as XFree package maintainer.

 So, start with it.

 No, I am NOT willing to prepare and release that package.

 Then shut the fuck up.  If you can't improve the situation your comment
is worth nothing but annoying people.

 I know next to nothing about Debian internals, and I don't have enough
 time either (with my other projects and a dayjob).

 Oh, now everyone let's join in a minute of silence to honor your hard
day.

 Anyway THIS IS NO REASON for me to shut the fuck up

 Of course it *is* one, it's the best one.  Don't beat a dead horse - it
won't notice it.

 I am just saying what other developers don't dare to say, as it might
 damage and rip apart their magic castle.

 It is damaging the motivation of *anyone* within the project, not the
magic castle, whatever that might be.

 This risk must be taken, or Debian may die anyhow.

 There is a good german quote for that: Totgesagte leben länger -- I
don't know the right translation of that phrase, though.

 Of course, if no-one else is capable of maintaining that package,
 Debian is in trouble.

 Why shouldn't it?  I don't see any trouble here.

 In that case I suggest hiring a paid programmer for the job (if that
 should happen, I am willing to donate).

 You are willing to pay someone to do it?  Hey, thanks!!  How much? Or
no matter what it costs?

 XF is way too essential component to be ignored like this.

 It's *you* that is ignorant.

 Anyway, no-one will volunteer as long as Branden is officially working
 on it, so I suggest that the first thing to do is getting rid of him.

 Noone is willing to do anything as long as you are spreading flamebaits
so I sugguest that the first thing to do is getting rid of you.

 You don't know next to nothing about Debian and have the nuts to feel
true enough to be able to judge it?  Boy, you have a big problem.  Feel
welcome to my blacklist.

 Have fun,
Alfie
-- 
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Re: Debian Press update

2002-04-16 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Tue, 16 Apr 2002 10:19:21 +0200, Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

  You are probably sick and tired of this topic, but ...
  IT'S A QUARTER YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF 4.2.0 RELEASE!

/me wonders why people wants to turn Debian's way (do it right, release
when it is ready) into Microsoft's way (do it whatever way if you can
make it easy and make money from it, release when market will accept it)

  Time to throw some gasoline on the flames ... Branden apparently is
  incapable of releasing it.
[...]

  I know next to nothing about Debian internals, and I don't have enough
  time either (with my other projects and a dayjob).

yes, you are really proving to know nothing about Debian... Branden
is quite capable of doing very good packages for X, and that's what I
expect from him, and that's what he's doing now

I am not in a hurry for X4.2, I could live without it for as long as 18
years already, you see

  Anyway THIS IS NO REASON for me to shut the fuck up

of course it is... you have your right to say anything, but nothing
guarantees you won't be taken as an idiot by who is doing the real
work

  This risk must be taken, or Debian may die anyhow.

Debian will surely die if we keep receiving mail from people
like you =P

[]s!

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