Re: Debian means 'closer to Windows'?

2009-11-17 Thread Marek Artur Penther
I really sorry for my message!
It was big mistake.
Yesterday I found netinst-cd for i386.
It was hard to find.
I was looking for it really long time using a lot of techniques.

Once Again sorry.

Big thanks for all development staff for my favorite Operating System.

Regards

Marek Artur Penther
6 years old user (actually I'm 24 years old).

> When Debian started to mean 'closer to windows'?
> I want to use Debian, because I love this OS, but developers cutting this   
> love 
> by abadoning i386 arch. Sorry, but Windows making bigger minimal  
> 
> requirments, 
> and not Debian. And now it's changed?
> And this new minimal requirments making my computer completly obsolete?
> It's madness!
> Even Windows 7 don't making my computer completly obsolete, and Debian 6.0 
> making it.
> I can't understand. Do you want to better then Microsoft?
> So why you cutting me from our community?
> 
> P.S. I wanted to start donating Debian, but now I'll rather start donating 
> thing which I hate from bottom of heart - Microsoft!
> Why you doing this to me and others?
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> Marek Artur Penther


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Re: Debian means 'closer to Windows'?

2009-11-15 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Marek Artur Penther (marekpent...@aol.com):
> When Debian started to mean 'closer to windows'?
> I want to use Debian, because I love this OS, but developers cutting this 
> love 
> by abadoning i386 arch. Sorry, but Windows making bigger minimal requirments, 
> and not Debian. And now it's changed?


There have been many answers to your concern, but most of them sent
only in the mailing list, as you didn't explicitely requested to be
CC'ed to answers (the policy in Debian mailing list is to not CC
individuals to answers except when requested).

These aswers were, in short:  what makes you think this? There has
been no intent to drop the i386 architecture. Have you had trouble
with a recent installation and could you give us details about this?




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Re: YHBT [Was: Re: Debian means 'closer to Windows'?]

2009-11-15 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 03:54:57PM -0300, Mauro Lizaur wrote:
> 2009-11-15, Patrick Matthäi:
> > Marek Artur Penther schrieb:
> > > 
> > > P.S. I wanted to start donating Debian, but now I'll rather start 
> > > donating 
> > > thing which I hate from bottom of heart - Microsoft!
> > > Why you doing this to me and others?
> > 
> > 
> > If you are happy with Windows, use it, if not, use another system with
> > that you are happy.
> > 
> 
[subject: YHBT]
> Come on!

No, I don't see this as being possibly intentional.
I bet this poor soul plopped an amd64 CD into his i386 box, got an error
message, and, not knowing any better, threw an anger fit.

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YHBT [Was: Re: Debian means 'closer to Windows'?]

2009-11-15 Thread Mauro Lizaur
2009-11-15, Patrick Matthäi:

> Marek Artur Penther schrieb:
> > 
> > P.S. I wanted to start donating Debian, but now I'll rather start donating 
> > thing which I hate from bottom of heart - Microsoft!
> > Why you doing this to me and others?
> 
> 
> If you are happy with Windows, use it, if not, use another system with
> that you are happy.
> 

Come on!


Saludos,
Mauro

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Re: Debian means 'closer to Windows'?

2009-11-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Marek Artur Penther, le Sun 15 Nov 2009 16:53:45 +, a écrit :
> I want to use Debian, because I love this OS, but developers cutting this 
> love 
> by abadoning i386 arch.

Do you mean the i386 processor?  It's been abandonned by most OSes since
quite some time already.  Do you really still use an i386?  Does it have
enough RAM to run nowadays' Debian tools anyway?

If you mean the i386 series (i.e. also pentium etc.) I don't see where
you see Debian abandoning its i386 arch.

Samuel


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Re: Debian means 'closer to Windows'?

2009-11-15 Thread Andreas Marschke
On Sunday 15 November 2009 17:53:45 Marek Artur Penther wrote:
> When Debian started to mean 'closer to windows'?
You might confused that with the old Linspire stuff or Ubuntu.
Debian never had a reason to really need to be closer to windows.
Now I know Ubuntu is basing on Debian but we are still 2 independent(?) 
projects. 
> I want to use Debian, because I love this OS, but developers cutting this
>  love by abadoning i386 arch.
As said before i386 wont be abandoned and I cant see why it should be 
abandoned at all for a long time.
>  Sorry, but Windows making bigger minimal
>  requirments, and not Debian. And now it's changed?
> And this new minimal requirments making my computer completly obsolete?
> It's madness!
Please recheck your sources of information you probably just misread there 
something.

> Even Windows 7 don't making my computer completly obsolete, and Debian 6.0
> making it.
I doubt that 7 wants less from your computer unless you want to leave it in 
idle all the time and dont want to move anything.
> I can't understand. Do you want to better then Microsoft?
> So why you cutting me from our community?
As I said NO. We are the basis and buildig block upon which businesses and 
Distrobuilders create their Systems nad have great appliances. 
> P.S. I wanted to start donating Debian, but now I'll rather start donating
> thing which I hate from bottom of heart - Microsoft!
> Why you doing this to me and others?
> 
I dont think Windows actually needs anyones Donation unless its a bit more 
than bills house in money...

Kind regards ,

Andreas Marschke.


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Re: Debian means 'closer to Windows'?

2009-11-15 Thread Kumar Appaiah
Dear Marek,

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 04:53:45PM +, Marek Artur Penther wrote:
> When Debian started to mean 'closer to windows'?
> I want to use Debian, because I love this OS, but developers cutting this 
> love 
> by abadoning i386 arch. Sorry, but Windows making bigger minimal requirments, 
> and not Debian. And now it's changed?
> And this new minimal requirments making my computer completly obsolete?
> It's madness!
> Even Windows 7 don't making my computer completly obsolete, and Debian 6.0 
> making it.

You seem to be having some trouble with your Debian installation,
which is making it slow (to the best of my understanding). It would
make it easier for us to help you if you could focus on the problems
you are facing, and mail about it to the debian-user list, where
people can offer suggestions and workarounds.

I have been using Debian GNU/Linux for years, and have had the
opposite experience. On most machines I have installed Debian on, it
has performed much faster than Microsoft Windows, and all of these
were i386 machines. The minimum requirements are fairly low as well.

> I can't understand. Do you want to better then Microsoft?
> So why you cutting me from our community?

We are not cutting you from our community. Please bring your problems
to the Debian users' list, and you will most likely get sound advice
on how to resolve your problems with Debian GNU/Linux.

HTH, and thanks.

Kumar
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Re: Debian means 'closer to Windows'?

2009-11-15 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 04:53:45PM +, Marek Artur Penther wrote:
> I want to use Debian, because I love this OS, but developers cutting this 
> love 
> by abadoning i386 arch. Sorry, but Windows making bigger minimal requirments, 
> and not Debian. And now it's changed?
> So why you cutting me from our community?

There is no talk of dropping i386 from squeeze:
http://release.debian.org/squeeze/arch_qualify.html


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Re: Debian means 'closer to Windows'?

2009-11-15 Thread Patrick Matthäi
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Marek Artur Penther schrieb:
> When Debian started to mean 'closer to windows'?
> I want to use Debian, because I love this OS, but developers cutting this 
> love 
> by abadoning i386 arch. Sorry, but Windows making bigger minimal requirments, 
> and not Debian. And now it's changed?
> And this new minimal requirments making my computer completly obsolete?
> It's madness!
> Even Windows 7 don't making my computer completly obsolete, and Debian 6.0 
> making it.
> I can't understand. Do you want to better then Microsoft?
> So why you cutting me from our community?
> 
> P.S. I wanted to start donating Debian, but now I'll rather start donating 
> thing which I hate from bottom of heart - Microsoft!
> Why you doing this to me and others?

First at all:
Why are you trying to forcing us (the mailinglist readers) to send you a
reading notification? This is realy bad.. Disable it.

To your post:
Who said that we try to mess ourself with Windows or that we want to be
closer to Windows? It is Linux, not Windows.
Also I do not understand your requirements, do you have got references?
And "who" is "cutting" you from the community?

Sorry but your post seems to be a little trolling like..

If you are happy with Windows, use it, if not, use another system with
that you are happy.

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