Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Steve Dunham wrote:
 Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  pilot-link31806  pilot-link: Can't build from source
 
 This bug was filed against the 0.9.0 package and the 0.8.11 package is
 installed in slink. 

Thanks, I'll add it to my exclusion list tomorrow when I wake up.

Wichert.

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-21 Thread Michael Shields
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ivtools   31966  Post Inst error

I sent in a patch for this; it's a trivial fix.
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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-20 Thread Brian White
  After considerable delay, Slink is almost ready for release.  As such, it
  will go into the deep freeze on Wednesday, January 20th.  New uploads
  will be _greatly_ restricted.  Also, the following packages will be
  removed because of release-critical bugs still open against them:
 
 Unless someone fixes them before wednesday, right? (on a related note,
 wednesday in what timezone?).

As in when the automatic install runs on arount 3:00pm EST.

  Brian
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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-20 Thread Brian White
 Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze
 
  After considerable delay, Slink is almost ready for release.  As such, it
  will go into the deep freeze on Wednesday, January 20th.
 
 Brian, will you please consider to do a ftp.debian.org bug hunting *before*
 doing any deep freeze?

The ftp maintainers will have to take care of that.  I'm not sure if Guy
shares the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail with his helpers.  They're pretty
good about getting things done usually.

 Some bugs reported two months ago have not been fixed yet. This means that
 either:
 
 * They are difficult to fix (unlikely).
 * There are not enough ftp.debian.org maintainers (I don't know).
 * The release manager does not care about ftp.debian.org bugs (I hope not).
 * Some other reason (Which one?).
 
 Could somebody explain me, why, oh why, do we have to wait more than two
 months for trivial ftp.debian.org bugs to be fixed?

  Brian
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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-20 Thread Brian White
  dpkg  17624  dpkg: installs regular dir when .deb contains 
  symlink !
21182  dpkg: dpkg can go into an infinite loop with 
  --force-configure-any
28519  dpkg: dpkg creates circular symlinks
28817  dpkg takes no care over libdpkg
30090  weirdass dpkg coredumps and xbase upgrade insanity
30891  dpkg: Patch for update-alternatives to fix jdk 
  problems
 
 Is anyone actually working on these? Should they really hold up the
 release?

To answer the first question, I don't know.  To answer the second, that is
the reason for the bug severities in the first place so presumably, yes.


  nonus.debian.org  21423  Dpkg-ftp can't handle alternative distributions
  This is important??
 
  wu-ftpd-academ30931  wu-ftpd-academ: Can't build from source!
 
 I have compiled wu-ftpd-academ from source on saens at least 10 times, I
 did not get the problems described in the bug.

Close it saying you can't reproduce it and ask someone to re-open it if they
can reproduce it.

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-20 Thread Martin Schulze
Brian White wrote:
   nonus.debian.org  21423  Dpkg-ftp can't handle alternative distributions
   This is important??

I don't know what this bug is referring to, but there is a new dpkg-ftp
which can handle multiple servers.  I wrote a dpkg-multiftp method for
the same reasn, the new dpkg-ftp maintainer has merged both.

Regards,

Joey

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-20 Thread Paul Slootman
On Tue 19 Jan 1999, Branden Robinson wrote:
 
 XFree86 3.3.2.3a-8pre9v4 is available at
 http://master.debian.org/~branden/xfree86/ .

This doesn't seem to have the patches CRITICAL to the alpha port yet!
I sent you a note around 7th January about this, saying where you
could find the patches I needed to -8pre9v2. I'll say it again:

http://master.debian.org/~paul/alpha/xfree86/xfree86-alpha.diff

Without these, the X server crashes and burns. PLEASE add these patches
before uploading -9 !


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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-20 Thread Santiago Vila
On 19 Jan 1999, James Troup wrote:

 [...]
 We regularly do and have been clearing out
 release critical bugs against ftp.debian.org ever since the freeze.

 [The exceptions being certain ``release critical'' bugs filed by
 Santiago, [...]

Please do not confuse release critical with severity: important again.
It is up to the release manager to decide whether a certain bug
should delay the release or not.

When I file a Severity: important bug, I'm using the definition of
severity in the web bug pages: bugs which makes the package unsuitable
for release. It is still my opinion that the great number of
package conflicts and wrong dependencies make the ftp.debian.org as a
whole unsuitable for release, but I will of course respect the opinion of
the ftp.debian.org maintainers on this.

 which I just ignored, and Richard finally demoted to normal,
 provoking the typical harassment from him.]

When Richard demoted some bugs to normal he said:

It is much easier to fix them only in unstable.

At least, this is something to worry about.

Does this mean that the ftp.debian.org admins do not plan to fix any
other bug against ftp.debian.org (slink) before release unless it is
severity: important or higher?

I just hope that this is not the case.

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-20 Thread Steve Dunham
Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 pilot-link31806  pilot-link: Can't build from source

This bug was filed against the 0.9.0 package and the 0.8.11 package is
installed in slink. 


Steve
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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Brian White wrote:

Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze
 
 After considerable delay, Slink is almost ready for release.  As such, it
 will go into the deep freeze on Wednesday, January 20th.

Brian, will you please consider to do a ftp.debian.org bug hunting *before*
doing any deep freeze?

Some bugs reported two months ago have not been fixed yet. This means that
either:

* They are difficult to fix (unlikely).
* There are not enough ftp.debian.org maintainers (I don't know).
* The release manager does not care about ftp.debian.org bugs (I hope not).
* Some other reason (Which one?).

Could somebody explain me, why, oh why, do we have to wait more than two
months for trivial ftp.debian.org bugs to be fixed?

Thanks.

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Brian White wrote:
 After considerable delay, Slink is almost ready for release.  As such, it
 will go into the deep freeze on Wednesday, January 20th.  New uploads
 will be _greatly_ restricted.  Also, the following packages will be
 removed because of release-critical bugs still open against them:

Unless someone fixes them before wednesday, right? (on a related note,
wednesday in what timezone?).

 boot-floppies 31099  the 'load modules' screen hangs
   31618  Frozen boot floppies don't work on Tosh laptop.

Already fixed in CVS, a new upload is waiting for Herbert Xu to release
a new kernel-image with a tecra kernel.

 cracklib-runtime  27511  crack_packer outputs numbers to stdout
 dpkg  17624  dpkg: installs regular dir when .deb contains 
 symlink !
   21182  dpkg: dpkg can go into an infinite loop with 
 --force-configure-any
   28519  dpkg: dpkg creates circular symlinks
   28817  dpkg takes no care over libdpkg
   30090  weirdass dpkg coredumps and xbase upgrade insanity
   30891  dpkg: Patch for update-alternatives to fix jdk 
 problems
 dpkg-dev  25537  dpkg-dev: dpkg-genchanges does not allow 
 quot;-quot; in the architecture
   31508  parsechangelog broken?

Yaiks, I'll try to do some work on this later today.

 fileutils 30184  fileutils: chown broken on symlinks

This is only a problem for potato, not for slink.

 ftp.debian.org14898  courtney has problematic license
   31282  upgrade-1386 directory in Incoming
   31578  cfengine needs to be in frozen

cfengine has been reuploaded for slink; this bug should probably be
closed?

 kernel-image-2.0  31516  kernel-image-2.0.36: please add these ISDN fixes

Herbert Xu already uploaded a new kernel-image package which fixes this.

 perl-suid 31904  Secuity hole with perl (suidperl) and nosuid mounts 
 on Linux
 tcsh  28959  meta keys in tcsh don't work anymore!

This is already fixed with version 6.08.01-3

 xbase 30852  X packages do not upgrade automatically due to name 
 change.
 xdm   29360  xdm: Stopped X without warning/asking
 xlib6 31610  xlib6: requires gcc but declares no dependency (dpkg 
 --print-gnu-build-architecture?)
 xserver-common29166  xserver-common: should depend or at least recommend 
 properly ver'd xlib6g

Branden has a release candidate for X ready somewhere, and I urge
everyone to test that!

Wichert.

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

  xbase 30852  X packages do not upgrade automatically due to 
  name change.
  xdm   29360  xdm: Stopped X without warning/asking
  xlib6 31610  xlib6: requires gcc but declares no dependency 
  (dpkg --print-gnu-build-architecture?)
  xserver-common29166  xserver-common: should depend or at least 
  recommend properly ver'd xlib6g
 
 Branden has a release candidate for X ready somewhere, and I urge
 everyone to test that!

The site is:
http://master.debian.org/~branden/xfree86/
or in apt:
deb http://master.debian.org/%7Ebranden xfree86/

These are considered experimental, but I'm sure he welcomes all testers.

HTH,
Brandon

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Brian White wrote:

 dpkg  17624  dpkg: installs regular dir when .deb contains 
 symlink !
   21182  dpkg: dpkg can go into an infinite loop with 
 --force-configure-any
   28519  dpkg: dpkg creates circular symlinks
   28817  dpkg takes no care over libdpkg
   30090  weirdass dpkg coredumps and xbase upgrade insanity
   30891  dpkg: Patch for update-alternatives to fix jdk 
 problems

Is anyone actually working on these? Should they really hold up the
release?

 nonus.debian.org  21423  Dpkg-ftp can't handle alternative distributions
 This is important?? 

 wu-ftpd-academ30931  wu-ftpd-academ: Can't build from source!

I have compiled wu-ftpd-academ from source on saens at least 10 times, I
did not get the problems described in the bug.

Jason



Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Brandon Mitchell wrote:

 On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
 
  Branden has a release candidate for X ready somewhere, and I urge
  everyone to test that!
 
 The site is:
 http://master.debian.org/~branden/xfree86/

Mmm, what about the needed compatibility packages?
Will you have some time for this?

I think it is absolutely essential for the success of Debian 2.1 that
nobody will automagically lose functionality in the upgrade process.

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Santiago Vila wrote:

 On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Brandon Mitchell wrote:
 
  On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
  
   Branden has a release candidate for X ready somewhere, and I urge
   everyone to test that!
  
  The site is:
  http://master.debian.org/~branden/xfree86/
 
 Mmm, what about the needed compatibility packages?
 Will you have some time for this?
 
 I think it is absolutely essential for the success of Debian 2.1 that
 nobody will automagically lose functionality in the upgrade process.

Done in experimental changes file:
   * xbase is now a pseudo-package used to smooth upgrades from hamm or
 earlier systems
   * what was the new xbase is now xfree86-common

HTH,
Brandon

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 11:15:39AM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe écrivait:
 Is anyone actually working on these? Should they really hold up the
 release?

Wichert said, he will have a look.

  nonus.debian.org  21423  Dpkg-ftp can't handle alternative distributions
  This is important?? 

This bug is not listed on Wichert's list, and it's not a bug in 
nonus.debian.org but in dpkg-ftp, the bug does no more exist in 
dpkg-ftp_1.6.0 (which is in unstable), but if Brian thinks it's worth
to upload it to frozen, I can do it (but theres's a lot of modified 
code). In any way, i'll close this bug.

The problem does only appear when using server that do not have a symlink
from debian/dists/state/non-US to debian-non-US/dists/state/non-US 
so nobody can correct this bug...

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Brandon Mitchell wrote:

 On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Santiago Vila wrote:
 
  Mmm, what about the needed compatibility packages?
  Will you have some time for this?
  
  I think it is absolutely essential for the success of Debian 2.1 that
  nobody will automagically lose functionality in the upgrade process.
 
 Done in experimental changes file:
* xbase is now a pseudo-package used to smooth upgrades from hamm or
  earlier systems
* what was the new xbase is now xfree86-common

Please, remember that we need also pseudopackages xfnt100, xfnt75, etc.

Otherwise dselect will not select the new ones in favour of the old ones
unless the user had some package which specifically depended on some
of the old one and now depends on the new one. Since we can't guarantee
that this will always be the case, we need pseudopackages for all the xfnt
old packages and for every other package that changed its name.

Thanks.

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
 
  wu-ftpd-academ30931  wu-ftpd-academ: Can't build from source!
 
 I have compiled wu-ftpd-academ from source on saens at least 10 times, I
 did not get the problems described in the bug.

The problem seemed to be Alpha-related.  I tried unsuccessfully to port
the package (lacked the time, mostly...the coding wasn't really that
hard) earlier, fyi.  Despite the fact that a deb has mysteriously
appeared for this package in binary-alpha, I'm still (as of right now)
unable to compile the package from source on two different Alphas with
the same error quoted in the bug report.

I'll work on the package ASAP to try to get some patches up so we can
close this bug report.

C



Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Rob Tillotson
Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 pilot-link31806  pilot-link: Can't build from source

I just tried rebuilding pilot-link, after making the changes in
debian/rules suggested in the BTS entry (changing all egcc to
gcc), and could not reproduce the bug.

I've never dealt with a bug in someone else's package before; does
this mean that I should do an NMU and close the bug, or...???

(I really don't want to see pilot-link drop out, as it will take two
of my packages, ones I am the upstream author of no less, with it.)

--Rob

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Jules Bean
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Santiago Vila wrote:

 On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Brandon Mitchell wrote:
 
  On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Santiago Vila wrote:
  
   Mmm, what about the needed compatibility packages?
   Will you have some time for this?
   
   I think it is absolutely essential for the success of Debian 2.1 that
   nobody will automagically lose functionality in the upgrade process.
  
  Done in experimental changes file:
 * xbase is now a pseudo-package used to smooth upgrades from hamm or
   earlier systems
 * what was the new xbase is now xfree86-common
 
 Please, remember that we need also pseudopackages xfnt100, xfnt75, etc.
 
 Otherwise dselect will not select the new ones in favour of the old ones
 unless the user had some package which specifically depended on some
 of the old one and now depends on the new one. Since we can't guarantee
 that this will always be the case, we need pseudopackages for all the xfnt
 old packages and for every other package that changed its name.

Surely not?

Surely the Replace/Provide/Conflict combination will make dselect pick the
new ones?

(although this doesn't work for apt-get upgrade, I don't think)

Jules

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 08:04:32AM -0500, Brian White écrivait:
 fileutils 30184  fileutils: chown broken on symlinks

This bug is for potato only. 

You should consider using Wichert's list of release critical bug...

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Jules Bean wrote:

 On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Santiago Vila wrote:
 
 [ ... ]
  Please, remember that we need also pseudopackages xfnt100, xfnt75, etc.
  
  Otherwise dselect will not select the new ones in favour of the old ones
  unless the user had some package which specifically depended on some
  of the old one and now depends on the new one. Since we can't guarantee
  that this will always be the case, we need pseudopackages for all the xfnt
  old packages and for every other package that changed its name.
 
 Surely not?
 
 Surely the Replace/Provide/Conflict combination will make dselect pick the
 new ones?

I'm sorry but I'm afraid this is not the case.

I hate to say this, but please read the packaging manual and/or the policy
manual. I think you could be a little bit confused about the meaning of
some of these fields.

If you want a short explanation, here is one: dselect will not take
in account *any* of the fields in the packages you *don't* have installed,
unless there is an unsatisfied dependency.

You could make the new xbase to conflict every package that changed its
name, but then dselect could simple mark them for removal.

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Jules Bean
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Santiago Vila wrote:
  Surely not?
  
  Surely the Replace/Provide/Conflict combination will make dselect pick the
  new ones?
 
 I'm sorry but I'm afraid this is not the case.
 
 I hate to say this, but please read the packaging manual and/or the policy
 manual. I think you could be a little bit confused about the meaning of
 some of these fields.
 
 If you want a short explanation, here is one: dselect will not take
 in account *any* of the fields in the packages you *don't* have installed,
 unless there is an unsatisfied dependency.

Doh.

Of course, you're right.

I wasn't thinking clearly..

Jules

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 02:54:58PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

  dpkg-dev  25537  dpkg-dev: dpkg-genchanges does not allow 
  quot;-quot; in the architecture

This is important for the Hurd only, and should be in Wicherts exception
list. It is irrelevant for the slink release. Worst case would be that I
fix it in a NMU for _unstable_ when I incorporate dpkg-architecture into
dpkg-dev (assuming my policy proposal get's accepted), which does not happen
in January.

This should not hold up the release in any way, although it is very easy to
fix.

Marcus

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
Rob Tillotson wrote:
 
 I just tried rebuilding pilot-link, after making the changes in
 debian/rules suggested in the BTS entry (changing all egcc to
 gcc), and could not reproduce the bug.

The bug is really for potato and is Alpha-based (again).  I'll look into
this one now as well.  It *should* build fine, if past pilot-link
experience is worth anything.  Then again, new upstream versions
frequently break things.  As a start, though, let's incorporate the
patches submitted in #27941 (I'll do this here) and try again.

Also, fyi, when egcs is built, despite the fact that it's a primary
compiler on the Alphas (hence is 'gcc'), a link named 'egcc' is
installed pointing to gcc.

 I've never dealt with a bug in someone else's package before; does
 this mean that I should do an NMU and close the bug, or...???
 
 (I really don't want to see pilot-link drop out, as it will take two
 of my packages, ones I am the upstream author of no less, with it.)

Agreed.  This is a useful package (granted, I don't have a Palm-series
machine, but still...)

At any rate, it should be ok to ignore this bug relating to release
criteria since it applies to the potato version of the package.

C



Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 02:54:58PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
  ftp.debian.org14898  courtney has problematic license
31282  upgrade-1386 directory in Incoming
31578  cfengine needs to be in frozen

 cfengine has been reuploaded for slink; this bug should probably be
 closed?

It is closed now, I wanted to wait for dinstall to confirm prior to
closing it.

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread James Troup
Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Could somebody explain me, why, oh why, do we have to wait more than
 two months for trivial ftp.debian.org bugs to be fixed?

Perhaps because the more you whine about it the more prone we are to
ignore you?

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
Rob Tillotson wrote:
 
 I just tried rebuilding pilot-link, after making the changes in
 debian/rules suggested in the BTS entry (changing all egcc to
 gcc), and could not reproduce the bug.

Ok...I fixed this one and am uploading it shortly (NMU binary with
patches going to BTS).  The rules file was adding -L(path)/_libs when
the Alpha wants -L(path)/.libs.

I'll have to try to rebuild this on my Pentium to see if the changes
stick there too or if this is a quirk between archs (doubt it...should
work from what I noticed).  So, with maintainer intervention/patching,
this should be closed soon.

C



Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 08:04:32AM -0500, Brian White wrote:

Comments apply to the forthcoming -9 release.

 Also, the following packages will hold up the final release because of
 release- critical bugs against them.
[...]
 xbase 30852  X packages do not upgrade automatically due to name 
 change.

This is handled by the new xbase pseudo-package (see elsewhere on
debian-devel, mail from Ben Gertzfield).

Package: xbase
Architecture: all
Description: XFree86 upgrade convenience package
 Between Debian 2.0 (hamm) and 2.1 (slink) the XFree86 packages were
 extensively reorganized; this package exists solely to smooth the
 transition for people upgrading from Debian 2.0 or earlier.  Once it has
 been installed it may be removed at any time; it contains no programs,
 libraries, or documentation.
 .
 For the technically curious, this package exists solely to declare
 dependencies on the packages among whom the old xbase package's files were
 distributed.  The new packages are auto-selected by apt or dselect as a
 result, and the X Window System is properly upgraded.
Section: oldlibs
Priority: extra
Depends: rstart, rstartd, twm, xbase-clients, xdm, xfree86-common, xfs, xlib6g,
 xlib6g-dev, xmh, xproxy, xserver-common, xsm, xterm

The X font packages should not be a problem with apt-get dist-upgrade.
E.g.,

Package: xfonts-100dpi
Architecture: all
Description: 100 dpi fonts for X servers
 xfonts-100dpi provides a set of bitmapped fonts at 100 dots per inch.  In most
 cases it is desirable to have the X font server (xfs) and/or an X server to
 make the fonts available to X clients.
Conflicts: xfnt100
Replaces: xfnt100
Provides: xfnt100
Depends: xbase-clients
Recommends: xfs | xserver

 xdm   29360  xdm: Stopped X without warning/asking

See my message to this bug.  The old xbase prerm is the problem here;
this is an issue for the release notes.  The other points raised in the
release noted are fixed in my current test build.

 xlib6 31610  xlib6: requires gcc but declares no dependency (dpkg 
 --print-gnu-build-architecture?)

Apparently the dpkg command above is the wrong way to get the string I
want.  Marcus Brinkmann has offered to fix this one for me (applies to
xlib6, xlib6-dev, and xlib6-static).

 xserver-common29166  xserver-common: should depend or at least recommend 
 properly ver'd xlib6g

I have moved xinit (and thus startx) from xserver-common to xbase-clients,
so this no longer necessary.  Nothing in xserver-common depends on the X
libraries, which was the original intent of the package.

XFree86 3.3.2.3a-8pre9v4 is available at
http://master.debian.org/~branden/xfree86/ .

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Jules Bean
On 19 Jan 1999, James Troup wrote:

 Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Could somebody explain me, why, oh why, do we have to wait more than
  two months for trivial ftp.debian.org bugs to be fixed?
 
 Perhaps because the more you whine about it the more prone we are to
 ignore you?

Personally, I really hope that's not the case.

Bugs against ftp.debian.org are often important - these ones are holding
up slink's release (granted, they're not the only things holding it up).

It would be upsetting to think that our ftp.debian.org maintainer team was
choosing to spite the whole distribution because some developers were
whining.

It is also always upsetting to see an 'ad hominem' answer to an important
question - however the original question was couched.

So, could I (respectfully) ask someone on the ftp.debian.org team to
explain the delay?  If the problem is time constraints on the individuals
concerned - which is something we can all have sympathy for - then perhaps
the team would like to ask for volunteers to help with the spade-work.

Jules

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread James Troup
Jules Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Bugs against ftp.debian.org are often important - these ones are holding
 up slink's release (granted, they're not the only things holding it up).

No, it's not these ones.  Santiago is whining (again) about other bugs.

The release critical bugs for ftp.debian.org are:

ftp.debian.org14898  courtney has problematic license
  31282  upgrade-1386 directory in Incoming
  31578  cfengine needs to be in frozen
  31828  cgiwrap is old and unmaintained

#14898 is newly promoted, so it missed my clean out over the weekend.
#31282 is... problematic, I'll let Guy explain.  #31578 was never
really a ftp.debian.org bug, I chased BenC up about that several days
ago and I believe he's fixed it.  #31828 is also problematic (see the
bug log for the details).  We regularly do and have been clearing out
release critical bugs against ftp.debian.org ever since the freeze.
 
[The exceptions being certain ``release critical'' bugs filed by
Santiago, which I just ignored, and Richard finally demoted to normal,
provoking the typical harassment from him.]

 It would be upsetting to think that our ftp.debian.org maintainer
 team was choosing to spite the whole distribution because some
 developers were whining.

That's clearly not the case, please don't so blatantly misrepresent
things.

 It is also always upsetting to see an 'ad hominem' answer to an
 important question - however the original question was couched.

Santiago's behaviour is why I'm ignoring a lot of his bugs, I'd like
to see you suggest a way I explain that without being ``ad hominem''.
 
 So, could I (respectfully) ask someone on the ftp.debian.org team to
 explain the delay?

What freaking delay?  Please look at the bug report logs and show me
evidence that we're in any way holding up the release (i.e. there is
any danger of all the other release critical bugs against
non-chuckable packages being fixed before ftp.debian.org's).  It'd be
a cunning trick if you could.

 If the problem is time constraints on the individuals concerned -
 which is something we can all have sympathy for - then perhaps the
 team would like to ask for volunteers to help with the spade-work.

As Brian has said to Santiago already (those he chooses to ignore it
so he can whine more effectively), we do not need more help, and we
certainly do not want his ``help''.

Personally, I'd like to get on with the slink release and other
things, so please, don't carry this thread on.

-- 
James



Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
 This is important for the Hurd only, and should be in Wicherts exception
 list.

Thanks, I'll add it.

Wichert.

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Re: Debian v2.1 (Slink) Deep Freeze

1999-01-19 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Raphael Hertzog wrote:
 Wichert said, he will have a look.

I did, and just uploaded a new NMU (Vincent, I moved your NMU to
dpkg-old-NMU in Incoming so I didn't get a conflict with the
installation manuals). I'll add the changelog for your viewing pleasure.

Wichert.


dpkg (1.4.0.33) frozen; urgency=high

  * Non-maintainer upload
  * WARNING: please don't change the severity of the mentioned bugs to
  * fixed,
since this upload is NOT going to potato but only to slink
  * Fix illegal perl construct (Bug# 30985)
  * Initialize oialtname-useinstead and oicontest-camefrom to 0 (Bug#
  * 30397)
  * Update shlibs.default for libncurses 4 (Bug# 30332)  * Suggest
  * debian-keyring instead of developer-keyring (Bug# 27376, 30248)
  * Abort dpkg-divert when attempting to divert a directory (Bug# 30126)
  * Make dpkg-deb.1 aware that it is in section 1, not 8
  * Fix section in reference to dpkg-deb in dpkg.8 (Bug# 29740)
  * Fix typo in --force-help (Bug# 26193)
  * Correct path for debian-changelog-mode.el (Bug# 24606)
  * Make disk-method for dpkg use /var/run instead of /tmp to fix
symlink-attacks (Bug# 21399)
  * Document -n and -f options for update-rc.d in manpage (Bug# 15913)
  * Add --abort-after option to change after how many errors we abort
  * and
change the default to 50 (Bug# 22940)
  * Fix controllib.pl: don't check debian/substvars unless needed, and
don't depend on language settings (Bug# 31508)
  * Allow a - in the architecture-field (Bug# 25537)

 -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:23:06 +0100

dpkg (1.4.0.32) frozen; urgency=high

  * NMU: (Not uploaded in unstable which has dpkg-1.4.1)
Apply patch from Jim Pick for update-alternatives.pl to
fix 'Important' bugs #30891 in dpkg and (#27382, #27383, #27696,
#27703, #27736, #27097(merged bugs)) in jdk1.1.

 -- Vincent Renardias [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed,  6 Jan 1999 15:27:42 +0100

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