Re: Gtk1.2/Imlib/gnome-lib packages (Long)

2008-12-19 Thread Barry deFreese

Paul Wise wrote:

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Barry deFreese bdefre...@debian.org wrote:

  

Shoot, I didn't add that, Moritz did.



Ah, woops.

  

Which one should we actually use?



OngoingTransitions IMO (perhaps it could be renamed too).

BTW, found this page too:

http://wiki.debian.org/GTK%2B_1.2_leftovers

  
OK, I have created a new page at: 
http://wiki.debian.org/Gtk1.2ImlibGnome1Removals and linked it to the 
OngoingTransitions page.


Please feel free to update/fix, etc (especially the layout, I'm not 
happy with).


Thanks!

Barry deFreese


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Re: Gtk1.2/Imlib/gnome-lib packages (Long)

2008-12-19 Thread Daniel Leidert
Am Mittwoch, den 17.12.2008, 12:03 -0500 schrieb Barry deFreese:
 Hi folks,
 
 Just in case anyone cares/is interested, here is some work I have been 
 doing on packages using Gtk1.2, Imlib, gnome-libs, or any combination 
 thereof.
 
 
 Obviously some packages fall within more than one rdepend/rbdepend.
 gnome-libs:
 
   bluefish
 Actually built with gtk2 but still build-deps on gnome-bin?? (pinged 
 maintainer). Just a suggests, can probably be removed.

It does *not* build-depend on gnome-bin and I already told you this (you
simply did not answer). Where do you see this build-dependency?

Regards, Daniel


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Re: Gtk1.2/Imlib/gnome-lib packages (Long)

2008-12-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Daniel Leidert daniel.leidert.s...@gmx.net (19/12/2008):
bluefish
  Actually built with gtk2 but still build-deps on gnome-bin?? (pinged 
  maintainer). Just a suggests, can probably be removed.
 
 It does *not* build-depend on gnome-bin and I already told you this
 (you simply did not answer). Where do you see this build-dependency?

He probably meant “depends”. Which would be consistent with the “just a
suggests:” bits. And for those following at home:
| cy...@talisker:~$ apt-cache show bluefish|grep bin
| Suggests: galeon | iceape | iceweasel | www-browser, gnome-bin, weblint-perl 
| weblint, libxml2-utils, php5-cli, tidy

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Re: Gtk1.2/Imlib/gnome-lib packages (Long)

2008-12-19 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 19 December 2008 21:07:09 Daniel Leidert wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, den 17.12.2008, 12:03 -0500 schrieb Barry deFreese:
  Hi folks,
 
  Just in case anyone cares/is interested, here is some work I have been
  doing on packages using Gtk1.2, Imlib, gnome-libs, or any combination
  thereof.
 
 
  Obviously some packages fall within more than one rdepend/rbdepend.
  gnome-libs:
 
bluefish
  Actually built with gtk2 but still build-deps on gnome-bin?? (pinged
  maintainer). Just a suggests, can probably be removed.

 It does *not* build-depend on gnome-bin and I already told you this (you
 simply did not answer). Where do you see this build-dependency?

Ok, genuine mistakes happen, gnome-bin is found in Suggests, hence could be 
easily removed from there = no harm done ;-) 

I think he did a pretty good job compiling such a list, and I wonder if 
Alternatives: field would also be helpful for hopeless packages or it would 
just clutter the data ?

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Re: Gtk1.2/Imlib/gnome-lib packages (Long)

2008-12-19 Thread Barry deFreese

Daniel Leidert wrote:

It does *not* build-depend on gnome-bin and I already told you this (you
simply did not answer). Where do you see this build-dependency?

Regards, Daniel
  

Daniel,

Sorry about that, I keep going through so many of these, I keep mixing 
up build-deps/deps in my syntax.  But I did have Just a suggests, can 
probably be removed. in there.


Thanks,

Barry deFreese


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Re: Gtk1.2/Imlib/gnome-lib packages (Long)

2008-12-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 3:20 AM, Barry deFreese bdefre...@debian.org wrote:

 OK, I have created a new page at:
 http://wiki.debian.org/Gtk1.2ImlibGnome1Removals and linked it to the
 OngoingTransitions page.

Would it be a good idea to file bugs against all packages depending on
the gnome1/gtk1/imlib1 stack? With user debian...@l.d.o (or
debian-rele...@l.d.o) and usertag gtk1-removal. This would be a good
way to get an overview of the current status of the removal I think.

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Re: Gtk1.2/Imlib/gnome-lib packages (Long)

2008-12-18 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Barry deFreese wrote:

 Just in case anyone cares/is interested, here is some work I have been 
 doing on packages using Gtk1.2, Imlib, gnome-libs, or any combination 
 thereof.

Thanks.

Could you fold this into a page on wiki.debian.org, so that people
can add their specific solution attempts or actions? Such a useful
list will likely be lost in the noise in some weeks and through a
wiki it can be updated more easily.

Actually, it would be nice if we had a decicated cleanups/transitions
overview page on wiki.debian.org as a central starting point for 
people who want to help out.

Cheers,
Moritz


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Re: Gtk1.2/Imlib/gnome-lib packages (Long)

2008-12-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Moritz Muehlenhoff j...@inutil.org wrote:

 Actually, it would be nice if we had a decicated cleanups/transitions
 overview page on wiki.debian.org as a central starting point for
 people who want to help out.

This is the old one:

http://wiki.debian.org/OngoingTransitions

This is the one that Barry added:

http://wiki.debian.org/Transitions

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Re: Gtk1.2/Imlib/gnome-lib packages (Long)

2008-12-18 Thread Barry deFreese

Paul Wise wrote:

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Moritz Muehlenhoff j...@inutil.org wrote:

  

Actually, it would be nice if we had a decicated cleanups/transitions
overview page on wiki.debian.org as a central starting point for
people who want to help out.



This is the old one:

http://wiki.debian.org/OngoingTransitions

This is the one that Barry added:

http://wiki.debian.org/Transitions

  
Shoot, I didn't add that, Moritz did.  I didn't see the other one when I 
was poking around wiki.d.o today though.  Which one should we actually use?


Sorry,

Barry


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Re: Gtk1.2/Imlib/gnome-lib packages (Long)

2008-12-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Barry deFreese bdefre...@debian.org wrote:

 Shoot, I didn't add that, Moritz did.

Ah, woops.

 Which one should we actually use?

OngoingTransitions IMO (perhaps it could be renamed too).

BTW, found this page too:

http://wiki.debian.org/GTK%2B_1.2_leftovers

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Re: Gtk1.2/Imlib/gnome-lib packages (Long)

2008-12-18 Thread Barry deFreese

Paul Wise wrote:

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Barry deFreese bdefre...@debian.org wrote:

  

Shoot, I didn't add that, Moritz did.



Ah, woops.

  

Which one should we actually use?



OngoingTransitions IMO (perhaps it could be renamed too).

BTW, found this page too:

http://wiki.debian.org/GTK%2B_1.2_leftover

Yeah, I just found that too thanks.  It's a bit cluttered though.

Barry


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Re: Gtk1.2/Imlib/gnome-lib packages (Long)

2008-12-17 Thread Andreas Tille

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Barry deFreese wrote:


sqlrelay
  Some of the binaries have decent popcons.  We could probably either port 
sqlrelay-config-gtk or just remove that binary for now.


I'd also strongly vote for only droping this specific binary in case this
would be a Gtk 1.2 removal blocker but keeping sqlrelay in any case.  It
works perfectly without the config-gtk thingy .

Thanks for your investigation and patches

  Andreas.

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Re: Gtk1.2/Imlib/gnome-lib packages (Long)

2008-12-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 2:03 AM, Barry deFreese bdefre...@debian.org wrote:

 Just in case anyone cares/is interested, here is some work I have been doing
 on packages using Gtk1.2, Imlib, gnome-libs, or any combination thereof.

The playdv binary from libdv-bin can be dropped until it is ported to
GTK+ 2, bug filed upstream:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1925173group_id=4393atid=354393

PS: cult??

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