Re: How come X seems insistent on managing my XF86Config now?
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [CCing debian-x because if I get hit by a bus or arrested by Secretary Ashcroft today, the following will be important for the inheritor of our XFree86 packages to know.] Ah, for some reason I had trouble finding this mailing list. I poked around /usr/share/doc/xserver-xfree86 and the xsf web pages and couldn't find any mention of a separate mailing list. I imagine it's there and I'm just blind. On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 12:20:01AM -0400, Greg Stark wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just answer the questions. Well there seem to be a lot of them. And a lot of them don't seem to have default answers. Or in some cases any reasonable answer given my setup. Actually, they all have default answers. A few have blank default answers under most circumstances (like PCI bus ID and XKB variant), which it is safe to leave blank. Uh, in that case something's broken. I held down the return key and it skipped a bunch of questions but then got stuck on one. I had to choose an answer. Then I held down the return key and it got stuck a few questions later. At least 3-4 questions needed manual answers. In any case I was more worried that it would touch my config file. With your assurances I went ahead and answered the questions and there weren't nearly as many of them as I feared. In the meantime, I suggest just hitting enter until the questions go away (if you're using the dialog frontend -- if not, do the equivalent for your frontend). This was in an xterm. -- greg
Re: How come X seems insistent on managing my XF86Config now?
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just answer the questions. Well there seem to be a lot of them. And a lot of them don't seem to have default answers. Or in some cases any reasonable answer given my setup. It doesn't insist on managing your XF86Config-4 file now, it just insists on asking you questions because I need to (greatly) improve the PRIORITY_CEILING logic which I failed to implement correctly. Ick. That's, uhm, really really annoying, but I guess you know that. Please see URL: http://people.debian.org/~branden/xsf/FAQ (near the end) if you'd like to know what's going on. I did check there. But it seemed to say there were a million reasons why it shouldn't be asking me all these questions and the only advice it gave was how to convince it to take control back if it stopped. I assumed if it wasn't managing my config file it wouldn't ask me the questions. -- greg
Re: How come X seems insistent on managing my XF86Config now?
[CCing debian-x because if I get hit by a bus or arrested by Secretary Ashcroft today, the following will be important for the inheritor of our XFree86 packages to know.] On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 12:20:01AM -0400, Greg Stark wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just answer the questions. Well there seem to be a lot of them. And a lot of them don't seem to have default answers. Or in some cases any reasonable answer given my setup. Actually, they all have default answers. A few have blank default answers under most circumstances (like PCI bus ID and XKB variant), which it is safe to leave blank. It doesn't insist on managing your XF86Config-4 file now, it just insists on asking you questions because I need to (greatly) improve the PRIORITY_CEILING logic which I failed to implement correctly. Ick. That's, uhm, really really annoying, but I guess you know that. Yes; it's on the TODO for 4.2.1-13. Please see URL: http://people.debian.org/~branden/xsf/FAQ (near the end) if you'd like to know what's going on. I did check there. But it seemed to say there were a million reasons why it shouldn't be asking me all these questions and the only advice it gave was how to convince it to take control back if it stopped. I assumed if it wasn't managing my config file it wouldn't ask me the questions. I think it's important to have those questions answered anyway, in the event the user changes his mind about the manual configuration gig. (Unlikely, you say? I wrote the latest FAQ entry about putting the files back under automatic management because I was frequently asked. :) ) Remember that configuration questions get asked in the config maintainer script, which runs even prior to the preinst script in some cases. I can't make many assumptions about the filesystem. The thought of having a debconf template that is never shown to the user but just stores a boolean for a configuration file's management state has occurred to me, but I haven't thought through it yet. Before I implement such a thing, I need to think through all the possible scenarios. When I fix the priority ceiling business, you'll only get asked a few of the highest-priority questions (if any at all, depending on your configured question priority threshold). The intended effect of the priority ceiling is to treat the existence of XF86Config-4 as a reasonable default answer exists for this question, meaning the value in the configuration file. Per debconf-devel(7), this means the question priority would be capped at medium. And that's exactly what I tried to do, except my brain busted and I cannot achieve what I want with simple parameter substitution tricks in Bourne shell. In the meantime, I suggest just hitting enter until the questions go away (if you're using the dialog frontend -- if not, do the equivalent for your frontend). -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian GNU/Linux |Yeah, that's what Jesus would do. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How come X seems insistent on managing my XF86Config now?
On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 12:21:39PM -0400, Gregory Stark wrote: I've always managed my own XF86Config, and the debian packages have for the most part stayed out of my way. How come now I can't upgrade without answering dozens of questions about my graphics card and monitor etc. I've been stuck at this version for a while since I always C-c the configuration and that dumps me out of the install. I seem to have 4.2.1-9 installed and am trying to install 4.2.1-12.1: Just answer the questions. It doesn't insist on managing your XF86Config-4 file now, it just insists on asking you questions because I need to (greatly) improve the PRIORITY_CEILING logic which I failed to implement correctly. Please see URL: http://people.debian.org/~branden/xsf/FAQ (near the end) if you'd like to know what's going on. -- G. Branden Robinson|I must confess to being surprised Debian GNU/Linux |by the magnitude of incompatibility [EMAIL PROTECTED] |with such a minor version bump. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |-- Manoj Srivastava signature.asc Description: Digital signature
