Re: ITO: zope-popyda, python-popy

2001-01-02 Thread eric
Dear Debian developers,

We regret to disturb this mailing list, but we feel that the previous
email by Federico di Gregorio was an act of defamation towards PoPy
and ZPoPyDA authors.  We think that our problems with Federico di
Gregorio as a member of Mixadlive S.r.l. board should be independent
with his role as a debian developer, and we can't understand why
internal problems of Federico's society ended up here.  This is a
private affair and we think it's questionable behaviour for him to
say these things here, because the Debian community doesn't know and
doesn't supposedly care about our case.

Now, we'd like to get some  points clear.

First of all, we have moved our software to Sourceforge after talking
to Mixadlive CEO, who gave us his agreement.

Furthemore, nobody in Mixadlive ever wrote a line of code, with the
sole exception of autotools code, which was written by Federico. We
didn't request the copyright to be assigned to us, and in fact we'd be
happy to grant all copyright for our work to the Free Software
Foundation if asked to do so.

After the move to Sourceforge, we expressed our anxiety to Federico
about the fact that PoPy and ZPoPyDA latest versions weren't being
uploaded to the Debian distribution.  We emailed him, asking what he
wanted to do with both packages and asking for the possibility to do a
NMU in order to speed up the process of upload.  We didn't get any
response, and we discovered yesterday that Federico had decided to
orphan PoPy and ZPoPyDA without telling us anything.  We have never
asked him to orphan those packages and we have never thought that a
developer reputation was linked solely to having debian packages of
his software around - despite what Federico says, we think that PoPy
and ZPoPyDA would still be some nice software even if packaged with
rpm.

As regards the french debian developers, their unhappiness doesn't
come from the lack of upstreaming  but from Federico's response to
them...

I'm sorry to have to post this here, but enough is enough and I felt a
clarification on our part was needed.

Eric Bianchi
Thierry Michel




Re: ITO: zope-popyda, python-popy

2000-12-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Federico Di Gregorio wrote:
   after being asked so by the upstream author i declare my intention
 to orphan (from now) the following packages:

Why does upstream want you to orphan them?

Wichert.

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Re: ITO: zope-popyda, python-popy

2000-12-25 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Scavenging the mail folder uncovered Wichert Akkerman's letter:
 Previously Federico Di Gregorio wrote:
  after being asked so by the upstream author i declare my intention
  to orphan (from now) the following packages:
 
 Why does upstream want you to orphan them?

he developed popy and zpopyda while working for my company. he didn't leave
in very good terms. some week ago he deleted the sources from our cvs and
then told me he wanted to move to sourceforge. we said yes and gave him the
copyright over the parts written by us because we didn't want to go against
him.

i think he asked me to orphan his programs because he thinks i am a little
bit behind the upstream releases not because i have a lot of work but
because i want to damage him (by giving him bad reputation not releasing
.debs...) he also told me that some french debian developers were very
displeased with me (he didn't give any name.)

i think it is much better for me just to orphan the packages as he asked.
we (as a company) already have enough problems with him and i din't wanted
to add debian to out arguments.

ciao,
federico

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Federico Di Gregorio
MIXAD LIVE Chief of Research  Technology  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian GNU/Linux Developer  Italian Press Contact[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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