Re: Intent to package: uedit
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Igor Grobman wrote:
O my god!! This is true. I downloaded it, and the README is pretty much
what James has written. I tried starting it, and it managed to kill
exmh, but not all of X exiting with Setup Eror: Unable to Initialize
Program. What a pity, it failed to kill X :).
Um... I suddenly have a strange desire to destroy someone or something.
Well, after making a user to test this out with:
mercury:/home/rcw/Uedit_0.9c$ strace ./Uedit
execve(./Uedit, [./Uedit], [/* 24 vars */]) = 0
brk(0) = 0x19000
ioctl(0, KDSETMODE, 0) = 0
ioctl(0, VT_WAITACTIVE, 0) = -1 ENXIO (Device not configured)
ioctl(0, VT_SETMODE, 0x18ef8) = 0
ioctl(0, VT_RELDISP, 0) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument)
sigaction(SIGUSR1, {SIG_IGN}, {SIG_DFL}) = 0
open(/dev/mem, O_RDWR)= -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
fstat(1, {st_mode=S_ISGID|010, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
brk(0x1c000)= 0x1c000
brk(0x1d000)= 0x1d000
ioctl(1, TCGETS, {B38400 opost isig icanon echo ...}) = 0
write(1, Setup Error: Unable To Initializ..., 42Setup Error: Unable To
Initialize Program
) = 42
_exit(0)= ?
Yeah, that's right, an editor that opens /dev/mem.
I'm also wondering why, in 1998, this guy is releasing a.out binaries,
without source. valleyIt's just like, you know, so... *retro!*/valley
:)
Sick. Disgusting. Wrong.
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Re: Intent to package: uedit
hmm an editor that opens /dev/mem...
that _IS_ evil!
hmmm...sounds like a pointless port of some DOS crackers tool
in fact...I rmemeber a DOS tool like this...but instead of editing it
just displayed memory contents
(Win95 did NOT like that running in a window)
I am curious
is there any legal reason to open /dev/mem
(or even a semi-sane reason?)
oh well...not much point here :)
-Steve
On Fri, 1 May 1998, Robert Woodcock wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Igor Grobman wrote:
O my god!! This is true. I downloaded it, and the README is pretty much
what James has written. I tried starting it, and it managed to kill
exmh, but not all of X exiting with Setup Eror: Unable to Initialize
Program. What a pity, it failed to kill X :).
Um... I suddenly have a strange desire to destroy someone or something.
Well, after making a user to test this out with:
mercury:/home/rcw/Uedit_0.9c$ strace ./Uedit
execve(./Uedit, [./Uedit], [/* 24 vars */]) = 0
brk(0) = 0x19000
ioctl(0, KDSETMODE, 0) = 0
ioctl(0, VT_WAITACTIVE, 0) = -1 ENXIO (Device not configured)
ioctl(0, VT_SETMODE, 0x18ef8) = 0
ioctl(0, VT_RELDISP, 0) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument)
sigaction(SIGUSR1, {SIG_IGN}, {SIG_DFL}) = 0
open(/dev/mem, O_RDWR)= -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
fstat(1, {st_mode=S_ISGID|010, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
brk(0x1c000)= 0x1c000
brk(0x1d000)= 0x1d000
ioctl(1, TCGETS, {B38400 opost isig icanon echo ...}) = 0
write(1, Setup Error: Unable To Initializ..., 42Setup Error: Unable To
Initialize Program
) = 42
_exit(0)= ?
Yeah, that's right, an editor that opens /dev/mem.
I'm also wondering why, in 1998, this guy is releasing a.out binaries,
without source. valleyIt's just like, you know, so... *retro!*/valley
:)
Sick. Disgusting. Wrong.
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Re: Intent to package: uedit
Robert Woodcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, that's right, an editor that opens /dev/mem. If you do an objdump (-Slx) on the binary, you'll see that it's trying to treat the screen as a region of memory. -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intent to package: uedit
On Sat, May 02, 1998 at 09:12:41AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: Yeah, that's right, an editor that opens /dev/mem. If you do an objdump (-Slx) on the binary, you'll see that it's trying to treat the screen as a region of memory. This program is starting to scare me. It disables console switching, puts your keyboard in raw mode, is suid root (an EDITOR is suid?), manipulates /dev/mem itself (can we say corruption?) and has no source! I don't know that there is any method for doing this, but if the person who intends to package this thing was serious, I protest this thing getting in to the Debian ftp mirror, non-free or not. I think this program is dangerous and is a blatant security and stability compromise. Debian has a policy to try and fix these kinds of problems within 48 hours if possible. This one should be fixed now, before the thing gets uploaded to master. pgpYfeZoHUmLP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Intent to package: uedit
On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 09:32:04PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: To get maximum speed uedit will disable the wasteful multi-tasking behaviour of Linux and make it do the Right thing, DOS-style single-tasking. Obviously neither X nor networking survive, yay! Network users should stop wasting bandwidth and use a local machine. I hope you will give it a priority of extra, then. and don't forget these: Conflicts: Clue Recommends: dos-weenie-attitude craig -- craig sanders -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intent to package: uedit
I'll take it as read that there are no objections. How could there be? Gadzooks! You know, it's almost May 1, but that's not the same thing as April 1, not at all. I hope that this is a joke, at any rate it's not a very funny one. This program is a monstrosity. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intent to package: uedit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I thought you had zero intention to maintain a non-free package. Have you changed your mind? To get maximum speed uedit will disable the wasteful multi-tasking behaviour of Linux and make it do the Right thing, DOS-style single-tasking. Obviously neither X nor networking survive, yay! Network users should stop wasting bandwidth and use a local machine. I hope you will give it a priority of extra, then. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBNUeAKiqK7IlOjMLFAQHYFAP/RYE+FbjZI7wqtFV6zvz8waGvCjlwMtNO LLIbR/y4J7EQBlbOjZ99elPCCy72KxmK2/YsTcJhQAJXe5Ag21AebKT+bcdWa3/P YSmzWKusUPe1lYuVBFF/6N3AcWYkkAZ22ROC8YmrlWfgkpQFq74N51+WQC91cnoK rtW51ebw9DQ= =sy3h -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intent to package: uedit
--On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 7:50 pm +0100 James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I intend to package uedit. I've always bemoaned the lack of a decent editor on Linux, but I've finally found one. For all those of you who, like me, have long detested the bloated pig that is X11, you will rejoice to know that this editor is console based. James is clearly joking. (You are joking, aren't you, James?) But the scary things is that uedit really does exist... I suspect it doesn't really disable multi-user though ;) Go read the author's page - it's quite amusing.. Jules /+---+-\ | Jelibean aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6 Evelyn Rd| | Jules aka | | Richmond, Surrey | | Julian Bean | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| TW9 2TF *UK* | ++---+-+ | War doesn't demonstrate who's right... just who's left. | | When privacy is outlawed... only the outlaws have privacy. | \--/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intent to package: uedit
O my god!! This is true. I downloaded it, and the README is pretty much what James has written. I tried starting it, and it managed to kill exmh, but not all of X exiting with Setup Eror: Unable to Initialize Program. What a pity, it failed to kill X :). Um... I suddenly have a strange desire to destroy someone or something. Igor, still recovering. -- Proudly running Debian Linux! Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intent to package: uedit
James Troup wrote: As to placement within the Debian archive, it will have to go to non-free as due to the haranguing and harassment of inhabitants of comp.os.linux.* the author is loathed to reveal his secrets in case sicko Linux-leechers try to steal his ideas, so there is no source. I must object most strenuously to its placement. The Debian Free Software Guidelines fail to define Source Code, but I believe the definition given in the GNU General Public License is quite adequate: The source code for a work means the preferred form of the work for making modifications to it. Since the only modifications one might possibly want to make to uedit all involve the use of the rm utility, which works just *fine* on sources and executables alike, I see no obstacle to placing this significant program in the main distribution. Richard Braakman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
