Re: JavaScript usage

2014-09-02 Thread Mario Lang
Thorsten Glaser t.gla...@tarent.de writes:

 On Sun, 31 Aug 2014, Octavio Alvarez wrote:

 Why don't you use JavaScript? I also don't like enabling JavaScript in

 Because I use lynx as browser.

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Re: JavaScript usage

2014-09-01 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Sun, 31 Aug 2014, Octavio Alvarez wrote:

 Why don't you use JavaScript? I also don't like enabling JavaScript in

Because I use lynx as browser.

But then, this survey *does* work with Lynx. At least, I get a
success message at the end…

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Re: JavaScript usage

2014-08-31 Thread Octavio Alvarez
On 08/31/2014 10:21 AM, Octavio Alvarez wrote:
 Why don't you use JavaScript? I also don't like enabling JavaScript in
 my browsers but other than my personal reasons I have no arguments
 coming from somebody else.
 
 How do you currently cope up with pages with JavaScript? I use Chrome
 and the Quick JavaScript Switcher plugin.
 
 Do you have a particular concept regarding JavaScript or scripting in
 documents, or is it just for a practical purpose?

Sorry, that was meant to be a private response. My MUA hid the DD
mailing list from view and never checked beyond what appeared on the
screen. Please ignore, and sorry for the noise.


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Re: JavaScript usage (was: Two-minute(!)-survey on motivation and free time contribution of open source developers)

2014-08-31 Thread Bálint Réczey
Hi Octavio and All,

2014-08-31 19:21 GMT+02:00 Octavio Alvarez alvar...@alvarezp.ods.org:
 On 08/31/2014 10:03 AM, Bálint Réczey wrote:
 Hi,
 2014-08-31 17:42 GMT+02:00 Paul Wise p...@debian.org:
 On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Stefan Kullack wrote:

 It would be fantastic if you could spend two minutes on three simple 
 questions!

 Here is the link to the survey: https://de.surveymonkey.com/s/MFKXYLP

 You might get more feedback if you weren't using a proprietary SaaSS
 (service as a software substitute) that also causes privacy violations
 by asking users' browsers to report to the proprietary privacy
 invading Google Analytics service.
 I would happily take this survey if I could do it without enabling
 JavaScript on the page.
 It this was the first survey question it is a pretty clever setup :-)

 Why don't you use JavaScript? I also don't like enabling JavaScript in
 my browsers but other than my personal reasons I have no arguments
 coming from somebody else.

 How do you currently cope up with pages with JavaScript? I use Chrome
 and the Quick JavaScript Switcher plugin.

 Do you have a particular concept regarding JavaScript or scripting in
 documents, or is it just for a practical purpose?
I use NoScript and enable the minimal set of JavaScripts for every
page they need to run. Most probably this is overkill and I take this
request back. I just felt that for a few checkboxes and radio buttons
it is overkill to run JavaScript.

Cheers,
Balint


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Re: JavaScript usage

2014-08-31 Thread Russ Allbery
Bálint Réczey bal...@balintreczey.hu writes:

 I use NoScript and enable the minimal set of JavaScripts for every page
 they need to run. Most probably this is overkill and I take this request
 back. I just felt that for a few checkboxes and radio buttons it is
 overkill to run JavaScript.

You're not the only one who is irritated by this, and I also use NoScript,
pretty aggressively block Javascript, and am reluctant to turn it on.

I'm surprised the survey worked with elinks, since this is a known problem
with SurveyMonkey and something that never fails to annoy me when getting
surveys from there.  Although I often sigh and temporarily enable
Javascript just for that site if I care about the survey.

That said, I know enough people who are web developers to understand why
they do this sometimes.  It's hard to get things to work properly without
Javascript in a world where you have wildly varying screen sizes and
display interfaces between mobile and desktop, and where the UI models
offered by HTML and CSS alone are limited.  I just wish they'd degrade
more smoothly, and that sites would do less of pulling Javascript in from
half the web and creating all sorts of tracking and privacy leak points in
the process.

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