Re: KDE hurts Qt (LICENSES)
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Alan Cox wrote: > > And SuSE and Red Hat and all of them put together are not worth a US lawsuit > > yet. Price yourself a US lawsuit then judge again. > > > > Make them 5 times bigger and yes then its worth it. Martin Konold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wrong! If you are not protecting your rights. You are running into > the danger that you loose a case because you did accept the wrong > behaviour too long in case you had detailed information years before. You're confusing copyright law and trademark law. This statement would be true for trademark law but is not true of copyright law. -- Raul
Re: KDE hurts Qt (LICENSES)
> Just threadening with sueing is simply an action of FUD. I haven't threatened to sue anyone. You must have been listening to Matthais foaming at the mouth too much. > Sorry for my harsh words. But it looks to me like some people are trying > to keep kde people from making even better free software because they do > have trouble to succeed with their own competing project. I hope not. Had people like Miguel been involved that might be a reasonable suspicion. I want to see a KDE that works well, is on a solid legal ground and preferably is totally free. KDE works pretty well, its quite usable even on my 486SLC palmtop.[1] Most of number 2 is easy to resolve by folks putting in the explicit clarifications that they think linking with Qt is fine by them. The only hard bit is asking people outside the KDE project and dealing with anyone who doesn't like the idea. I suspect the number of objections will be few. Alan [1] Yes I've got a box with KDE on it, and one with Gnome and one with Windowmaker ;)
Re: KDE hurts Qt (LICENSES)
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Alan Cox wrote: > > Alan: This is a perfect example of FUD! > >SuSE has the biggest rate of growth of all Linux distributors in > >the US. > > And SuSE and Red Hat and all of them put together are not worth a US lawsuit > yet. Price yourself a US lawsuit then judge again. > > Make them 5 times bigger and yes then its worth it. Wrong! If you are not protecting your rights. You are running into the danger that you loose a case because you did accept the wrong behaviour too long in case you had detailed information years before. Just threadening with sueing is simply an action of FUD. I therefore make the following _personal_ offer to you and RMS: I will link GNU Emacs to kde and distribute the resulting source and binary to you and RMS. You then have to sue ME or shut up! Sorry for my harsh words. But it looks to me like some people are trying to keep kde people from making even better free software because they do have trouble to succeed with their own competing project. Regards, -- martin // Martin Konold, Herrenbergerstr. 14, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Anybody who's comfortable using KDE should use it. Anyone who wants to tell other people what they should be using can go to work for Microsoft. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: "BCPL gave birth to B, and the child of B was of course C, since the ancestor of X is W, so the sucessor to X must be K."
Re: KDE hurts Qt (LICENSES)
> Alan: This is a perfect example of FUD! No >SuSE has the biggest rate of growth of all Linux distributors in >the US. And SuSE and Red Hat and all of them put together are not worth a US lawsuit yet. Price yourself a US lawsuit then judge again. Make them 5 times bigger and yes then its worth it. Alan
Re: KDE hurts Qt (LICENSES)
On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Alan Cox wrote:
Dear Alan,
> What you have to remember is this.
>
> SuSE are currently too small to be worth sueing in the US
> on a licensing issue. Ditto most (all ?) other current
> distributors
>
> I'm not trying to belittle people like SuSE quite the opposite - Im
> confident SuSE will end up big enough to be worth sueing in the USA on
> such matters. What happens then ?
Alan: This is a perfect example of FUD!
>From ESR`s hackers dictionary:
":FUD: /fuhd/ n. Defined by Gene Amdahl after he left IBM to found
his own company: "FUD is the fear, uncertainty, and doubt that IBM
sales people instill in the minds of potential customers who might
be considering [Amdahl] products." The idea, of course, was to
persuade them to go with safe IBM gear rather than with
competitors' equipment. This was traditionally done by promising
that Good Things would happen to people who stuck with IBM, but
Dark Shadows loomed over the future of competitors' equipment or
software. See {IBM}.
:FUD wars: /fuhd worz/ n. [from {FUD}] Political posturing engaged in
by hardware and software vendors ostensibly committed to
standardization but actually willing to fragment the market to
protect their own shares. The UNIX International vs. OSF conflict
is but one outstanding example."
Facts: Unix does have most of its acceptance in Europe in contrast to the
US.
SuSE is the most popular Linux distributor in Europe.
SuSE has the biggest rate of growth of all Linux distributors in
the US.
-- martin
// Martin Konold, Herrenbergerstr. 14, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany //
// Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] //
Anybody who's comfortable using KDE should use it. Anyone who wants to
tell other people what they should be using can go to work for Microsoft.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: "BCPL gave birth to B, and the child of B was of
course C, since the ancestor of X is W, so the
sucessor to X must be K."
