Re: Kernel bootsplash without recompiling

2006-06-14 Thread Jérôme Warnier
Le mercredi 14 juin 2006 à 13:41 +0200, Paul van der Vlis a écrit :
 Hello,
 
 I don't like the fact that I need to recompile the kernel to get a
 bootsplash. I don't ask for a bootsplash by default, but I would like a
 way to enable it with a standard kernel.
 
 For many many people all these boot-messages are confusing. For me this
 is really an important point in using Debian for normal people.
 
 Is there a good reason not to include the bootsplash?
 
 Who is making the dicision in questions like this?
Linus Torvalds, most probably.
I imagine the code is not judged portable or clean enough to be included
by default in the kernel.

 How can I ask for such a dicision?
Linus Torvalds himself, or the other core kernel hackers.
This is not really a Debian stuff.

Hope it helps

 With regards,
 Paul van der Vlis.
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Re: Kernel bootsplash without recompiling

2006-06-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 13:41 +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote:

 I don't like the fact that I need to recompile the kernel to get a
 bootsplash. I don't ask for a bootsplash by default, but I would like a
 way to enable it with a standard kernel.

splashy is a better alternative to the kernel-patch:

http://splashy.alioth.debian.org

It is only in experimental, but it works nicely.

Your other questions were answered by Jérôme Warnier.

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Re: Kernel bootsplash without recompiling

2006-06-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 19:55 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:

 Your other questions were answered by Jérôme Warnier.

I forgot the following pages related to boot splashscreens:

http://packages.debian.org/unstable/graphics/kernel-patch-bootsplash
http://packages.debian.org/experimental/graphics/splashy
http://packages.debian.org/experimental/graphics/splashy-themes
http://bugs.debian.org/297579
http://bugs.debian.org/356193
http://bugs.debian.org/368828
http://bugs.debian.org/368826
http://bugs.debian.org/188439
http://bugs.debian.org/188440

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Re: Kernel bootsplash without recompiling

2006-06-14 Thread Miriam Ruiz
gensplash and fbsplash might be an option to consider too:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash

Miry


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 On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 13:41 +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
 
  I don't like the fact that I need to recompile the kernel to get a
  bootsplash. I don't ask for a bootsplash by default, but I would like a
  way to enable it with a standard kernel.
 
 splashy is a better alternative to the kernel-patch:
 
 http://splashy.alioth.debian.org
 
 It is only in experimental, but it works nicely.
 
 Your other questions were answered by Jérôme Warnier.


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Re: Kernel bootsplash without recompiling

2006-06-14 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Jérôme Warnier schreef:
 Le mercredi 14 juin 2006 à 13:41 +0200, Paul van der Vlis a écrit :
 
Hello,

I don't like the fact that I need to recompile the kernel to get a
bootsplash. I don't ask for a bootsplash by default, but I would like a
way to enable it with a standard kernel.

For many many people all these boot-messages are confusing. For me this
is really an important point in using Debian for normal people.

Is there a good reason not to include the bootsplash?

Who is making the dicision in questions like this?
 
 Linus Torvalds, most probably.

Linux makes dicisions about the kernel, not about the Debian kernel.

Or does Debian have completely no patches to the kernel.org-kernel?

With regards,
Paul van der Vlis.


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Re: Kernel bootsplash without recompiling

2006-06-14 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Paul Wise schreef:
 On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 13:41 +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
 
 
I don't like the fact that I need to recompile the kernel to get a
bootsplash. I don't ask for a bootsplash by default, but I would like a
way to enable it with a standard kernel.
 
 
 splashy is a better alternative to the kernel-patch:
 
 http://splashy.alioth.debian.org
 
 It is only in experimental, but it works nicely.

Interesting. This looks like a real user-space splash screen ;-)


With regards,
Paul van der Vlis.


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Re: Kernel bootsplash without recompiling

2006-06-14 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Miriam Ruiz schreef:
 gensplash and fbsplash might be an option to consider too:
 
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash

Interesting...

From the site: http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/gensplash/

---
This means that if you don't care about having an image in the
background of your system consoles and all you really want is a progress
bar and a nice picture while (re-)booting the system, you can just use
splashutils and skip everything related to fbsplash, thus making
gensplash a 100% userspace solution. No kernel patches are required in
this case.
---

I think Debian needs something like Splashutils or Splashy..


Thanks,
Paul.


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Re: Kernel bootsplash without recompiling

2006-06-14 Thread Loïc Minier
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
 I don't like the fact that I need to recompile the kernel to get a
 bootsplash. I don't ask for a bootsplash by default, but I would like a
 way to enable it with a standard kernel.

 Ubuntu starts Linux with a framebuffer atop of the VGA16 video driver
 and uses usplash in initrd and during system boot to display a boot
 splash screen.  This doesn't need any kernel patch, but might require
 CONFIG_VGA16 to be in the kernel and not as a module.

 In my experience, the VGA16 FB didn't cause any problem, while using
 other drivers was quite risky on configurations running Xorg (garbled
 console when switching from X to tty[1-8]).

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Re: Kernel bootsplash without recompiling

2006-06-14 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Loïc Minier schreef:
 On Wed, Jun 14, 2006, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
 
I don't like the fact that I need to recompile the kernel to get a
bootsplash. I don't ask for a bootsplash by default, but I would like a
way to enable it with a standard kernel.
  
  Ubuntu starts Linux with a framebuffer atop of the VGA16 video driver
  and uses usplash in initrd and during system boot to display a boot
  splash screen.  

OK, interesting.

 This doesn't need any kernel patch, but might require
  CONFIG_VGA16 to be in the kernel and not as a module.

When they use initrd, I think a module is OK.

  In my experience, the VGA16 FB didn't cause any problem, while using
  other drivers was quite risky on configurations running Xorg (garbled
  console when switching from X to tty[1-8]).

Thanks for your info.

With regards,
Paul van der Vlis.



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