Re: More about GFDL
Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote: El Viernes 22 Abril 2005 14:37, Maciej Dems escribi: I have a simple question concerning the GFDL discussion. Does the GFDL documentation which currently does not contain any invariant section have to go to non-free as well? Yes, until the GFDL is revised, mainly due to the so-called anti-DRM clause. First of all, to avoid Invariant-Section-like problems, the document also must include no cover texts. Acknowledgements and Dedications appear to suffer similar problems (though it's unclear). (One of the things which makes these worse than similar requirements in other licenses is that these apparently must be included *in* rather than *alongside* the document, and presumably in the table of contents as well. The title preservation requirements are also troublesome.) But without all of these? Still not free. The anti-DRM clause, as written, makes the GFDL documentation non-free. (We believe that this is a mistake and hope that it will be fixed in the next version.) In addition, the transparent and opaque forms section is of uncertain freeness, and we haven't got a clarification. It's unclear, but the license may also prohibit pseudonymous authorship, which would be non-free, and we haven't got a clarification. -- This space intentionally left blank.
Re: More about GFDL
El Domingo 24 Abril 2005 04:36, Glenn Maynard escribió: On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 04:15:28AM +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote: El Viernes 22 Abril 2005 14:57, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh escribió: On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Maciej Dems wrote: I have a simple question concerning the GFDL discussion. For which the simple answer is: Read http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.xhtml I have the same question around for some months. I have read the link above but I didn't find any reply. Any extra clue? Those of us on d-legal have no idea what your question is; please restate it. :) Sorry: El Viernes 22 Abril 2005 14:37, Maciej Dems escribió: I have a simple question concerning the GFDL discussion. Does the GFDL documentation which currently does not contain any invariant section have to go to non-free as well? As I understand the problem, such documentation is free and only can loose its freeness in the future. But the same can be told about eg. any BSD-licensed program.
Re: More about GFDL
El Domingo 24 Abril 2005 04:39, Adeodato Simó escribió: * Cesar Martinez Izquierdo [Sun, 24 Apr 2005 04:15:28 +0300]: El Viernes 22 Abril 2005 14:57, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh escribió: On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Maciej Dems wrote: I have a simple question concerning the GFDL discussion. For which the simple answer is: Read http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.xhtml I have the same question around for some months. I have read the link above but I didn't find any reply. Any extra clue? Well, from the above document: The problems with the GFDL fall into three major categories, which are treated in detail below. - The DRM Restriction - Transparent And Opaque Copies - Invariant Sections As the original question was: Does the GFDL documentation which currently does not contain any invariant section have to go to non-free as well? , the remaining issues seem pretty easy to deduce. HTH, Well, I should have elaborated a bit more. Of course I guess the remaining issues are DRM and transparent and opaque copies. While I find these features of the license really inconvenient and I wouldn't use this license for my documentation, I fail to see which section of DFSG is infringed by them. César
Re: More about GFDL
Maciej == Maciej Dems [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maciej I have a simple question concerning the GFDL discussion. Maciej Does the GFDL documentation which currently does not Maciej contain any invariant section have to go to non-free as Maciej well? It might be better to ask this question on debian-legal. -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More about GFDL
El Viernes 22 Abril 2005 14:57, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh escribió: On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Maciej Dems wrote: I have a simple question concerning the GFDL discussion. For which the simple answer is: Read http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.xhtml I have the same question around for some months. I have read the link above but I didn't find any reply. Any extra clue? César
Re: More about GFDL
* Cesar Martinez Izquierdo [Sun, 24 Apr 2005 04:15:28 +0300]: El Viernes 22 Abril 2005 14:57, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh escribió: On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Maciej Dems wrote: I have a simple question concerning the GFDL discussion. For which the simple answer is: Read http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.xhtml I have the same question around for some months. I have read the link above but I didn't find any reply. Any extra clue? Well, from the above document: The problems with the GFDL fall into three major categories, which are treated in detail below. - The DRM Restriction - Transparent And Opaque Copies - Invariant Sections As the original question was: Does the GFDL documentation which currently does not contain any invariant section have to go to non-free as well? , the remaining issues seem pretty easy to deduce. HTH, -- Adeodato Simó EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 Listening to: The Decemberists - Clementine Military justice is to justice what military music is to music. -- Groucho Marx -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More about GFDL
On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 04:15:28AM +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote: El Viernes 22 Abril 2005 14:57, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh escribió: On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Maciej Dems wrote: I have a simple question concerning the GFDL discussion. For which the simple answer is: Read http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.xhtml I have the same question around for some months. I have read the link above but I didn't find any reply. Any extra clue? Those of us on d-legal have no idea what your question is; please restate it. :) -- Glenn Maynard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More about GFDL
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Maciej Dems wrote: I have a simple question concerning the GFDL discussion. For which the simple answer is: Read http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.xhtml -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
