Re: New APT version
On Tue, 5 May 1998, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Tue, 5 May 1998, Joey Hess wrote: This makes me wonder if we should think about dropping autoup as the preferred way to upgrade to hamm, and switch to apt. On the one hand, autoup has been tested pretty thouroghly and we shouldn't risk postponing debian 2.0 to work out bugs in apt. On the other hand, I've never seen autoup as anything but a hack. Apt also lets people accomplish the entire bo - hamm upgrade from inside dselect, which is much cleaner. i agree. if apt can do it and is ready in time for testing then we should certainly drop autoup and use apt instead. autoup *is* just a hack to get around a few deficiencies in dselect/'dpkg -iGROEB'. if it's no longer needed, then throw it awayit served it's purpose for the time it *was* needed. Well, not to belittle auto-up, but has it been kept up with the new bo-hamm elements? yep. Dpkg now depends on libstdc++ for instance. i released a new version to cope with this (and slang dependancies and other stuff) only a week or so ago. i update it as required, and as people inform me that it has problems. As far as bugs in apt go, I have been running a beta for the past month on alot of different machines and system and people. I have monitored about 5 bo upgrades that apt didn't have any problem with (there were package bugs though) if apt can do a complete bo - hamm upgrade without requiring the user to install a few packages by hand then we should use it. The very nice thing about apt is that it is highly deterministic in it's ordering, if you do one upgrade you can be pretty sure that alot of other similar ones will work correctly as well. I tried to do alot to make things happen in a highly predictable and constant order. yes, i really like apt. i've been using it to upgrade my own systems for a few weeks now. it works. i've used 'apt-get upgrade' from the command line, and apt as a dselect access method...i am very impressed with apt's performance. craig -- craig sanders -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New APT version
Jason Gunthorpe wrote: This version of apt is probably the most effective way to upgrade from bo/rex. It has been tested in several bo upgrades and has undergone simulated upgrades for 18 different configurations, including a few rex systems. This makes me wonder if we should think about dropping autoup as the preferred way to upgrade to hamm, and switch to apt. On the one hand, autoup has been tested pretty thouroghly and we shouldn't risk postponing debian 2.0 to work out bugs in apt. On the other hand, I've never seen autoup as anything but a hack. Apt also lets people accomplish the entire bo - hamm upgrade from inside dselect, which is much cleaner. -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New APT version
On Tue, 5 May 1998, Joey Hess wrote: Jason Gunthorpe wrote: This version of apt is probably the most effective way to upgrade from bo/rex. It has been tested in several bo upgrades and has undergone simulated upgrades for 18 different configurations, including a few rex systems. This makes me wonder if we should think about dropping autoup as the preferred way to upgrade to hamm, and switch to apt. On the one hand, autoup has been tested pretty thouroghly and we shouldn't risk postponing debian 2.0 to work out bugs in apt. On the other hand, I've never seen autoup as anything but a hack. Apt also lets people accomplish the entire bo - hamm upgrade from inside dselect, which is much cleaner. Well, not to belittle auto-up, but has it been kept up with the new bo-hamm elements? Dpkg now depends on libstdc++ for instance. As far as bugs in apt go, I have been running a beta for the past month on alot of different machines and system and people. I have monitored about 5 bo upgrades that apt didn't have any problem with (there were package bugs though) The very nice thing about apt is that it is highly deterministic in it's ordering, if you do one upgrade you can be pretty sure that alot of other similar ones will work correctly as well. I tried to do alot to make things happen in a highly predictable and constant order. Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: http mirror (was Re: New APT Version)
On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Steve Hsieh wrote: On 5 Apr 1998, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: Oh I'm all for switching to HTTP. Can we convince all our mirrors to switch? I'm going through the mirror list and building a sources.list of all the possible sources. I have 8 sites already I have enabled http transfers on our mirror as well... http://linux.eecs.umich.edu/pub/linux/debian As have I ... http://ftp.progsoc.uts.edu.au/pub/Linux/debian-non-US/ Anand. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New APT Version
Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/binary-i386/ ^ better use nonus.debian.org jjm -- Juergen Menden at work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +49 (89) 289 - 22387 private: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +49 (89) 89 712 743 Support the anti-Spam amendment. Join at http://www.cauce.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http mirror (was Re: New APT Version)
On 5 Apr 1998, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: Oh I'm all for switching to HTTP. Can we convince all our mirrors to switch? I'm going through the mirror list and building a sources.list of all the possible sources. I have 8 sites already I have enabled http transfers on our mirror as well... http://linux.eecs.umich.edu/pub/linux/debian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: http mirror (was Re: New APT Version)
--On Tue, Apr 7, 1998 3:13 pm -0400 Steve Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 5 Apr 1998, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
Oh I'm all for switching to HTTP. Can we convince all our mirrors to
switch?
I'm going through the mirror list and building a sources.list of all the
possible sources. I have 8 sites already
I have enabled http transfers on our mirror as well...
http://linux.eecs.umich.edu/pub/linux/debian
It may already be on your list, but
http://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/debian should work (SunSITE UK has had
{f,ht}tp equivalence for years...)
Jules
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