Re: OpenRC status (was: MATE 1.8 has now fully arrived in Debian)
On 06/04/2014 02:50 PM, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: On 06/04/2014 11:19 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: oh and ... no systemd, so it can run on non-linux ports! :) On that note, how are things with OpenRC. Not great. I have not enough time for it. OpenStack (with the recent Icehouse release) drained all of my time, including the short free time of my week-ends. I hope to have more free time this summer for it. The current plan was to have the interpreter (of runscripts) called openrc-run, separated from the rest of OpenRC, so it could be used when using sysv-rc too. In that way, we could start aggressively replacing sysv-rc scripts when Jessie is out, if openrc-run becomes a dependency of sysv-rc. Then the choice of sysv-rc vs openrc would be only about the thing who starts stuff, not just sh vs openrc-run. But currently, it's only an idea, nobody started implementing it. When discussing with one of the upstream (Patrick Lauer, which I'm hereby adding as Cc) he told me it should be easy. Patrick, would you have some time for this? Just your explanations will not cut it for me... Maybe when I get back home we could spend some time hacking together? :) All I've tested so far is inside my test vm, where it works fine. I'd love to have it on my work laptop, if I just had a replacement for policykit. There's nobody currently working on a policykit / logind replacement. This is IMO out of the scope of an init system and should be a separated project. Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/538f69d6.6080...@debian.org
Re: OpenRC status
On 06/05/2014 12:17 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: The current plan was to have the interpreter (of runscripts) called openrc-run, separated from the rest of OpenRC, so it could be used when using sysv-rc too. In that way, we could start aggressively replacing sysv-rc scripts when Jessie is out, if openrc-run becomes a dependency of sysv-rc. Then the choice of sysv-rc vs openrc would be only about the thing who starts stuff, not just sh vs openrc-run. But currently, it's only an idea, nobody started implementing it. When discussing with one of the upstream (Patrick Lauer, which I'm hereby adding as Cc) he told me it should be easy. Patrick, would you have some time for this? Just your explanations will not cut it for me... Maybe when I get back home we could spend some time hacking together? :) I went ahead and tried it on my work laptop and it failed to boot (I reported the bug against OpenRC). I may want to (passively) participate in the conversations you guys have. Do you have a mailing list for it ? -- Given the large number of mailing lists I follow, I request you to CC me in replies for quicker response signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: OpenRC status (was: MATE 1.8 has now fully arrived in Debian)
El Wed, 4 de Jun 2014 a las 11:47 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org escribió: On 06/04/2014 02:50 PM, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: All I've tested so far is inside my test vm, where it works fine. I'd love to have it on my work laptop, if I just had a replacement for policykit. There's nobody currently working on a policykit / logind replacement. This is IMO out of the scope of an init system and should be a separated project. Are you sure you want to replace polkit? Seems like more work than necessary... Anyway, I know Ryan Lortie (GNOME dev) was interested in defining what parts of logind GNOME would use by writing a library that only made calls to specific dbus methods and properties[1]. Perhaps if we do find somebody knowledgeable on the topic and/or interested in reimplementing logind they can give their input as to what is fine and what is more difficult to reimplement. [1] http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2014/02/19/on-portability/ (towards the end) Best regards, -- Cameron
