Re: Packages in section python/perl simply because implemented in python/perl

2008-05-24 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Sami Liedes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 (NOTE: Am I the only one who thinks descriptions, especially short
 descriptions as in phenny, usually shouldn't tell what language was
 used to implement the program? It's just not relevant to the user.)

Me agrees. Looks more of irresponsible advertising to me.

 Well, I don't know if you agree with me that written in Python is a
 poor reason to put a package in the python section, I couldn't find
 anything about it in the New Maintainers' Guide, for example. But if
 you do, perhaps a note should be added to the NMG, given how common
 this seems to be.

Me agrees too.



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Re: Packages in section python/perl simply because implemented in python/perl

2008-05-24 Thread Hendrik Sattler

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe schrieb:

On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Sami Liedes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

(NOTE: Am I the only one who thinks descriptions, especially short
descriptions as in phenny, usually shouldn't tell what language was
used to implement the program? It's just not relevant to the user.)



Me agrees. Looks more of irresponsible advertising to me.
  
Depends, I'd say. In the case of phenny, it might be relevant because 
extensible seems to be a core feature (probably means here: you can 
easily plug additional python code into it).

Still the wrong section.

HS


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Re: Packages in section python/perl simply because implemented in python/perl

2008-05-24 Thread Steve Greenland
 (NOTE: Am I the only one who thinks descriptions, especially short
 descriptions as in phenny, usually shouldn't tell what language was
 used to implement the program? It's just not relevant to the user.)

I mostly agree with this. The exception would be development tools and
libraries, where the implementation language can be relevant. OTOH,
those kind of tools probably should be in the relevant section.

(I sometimes look at implementation language for user apps *if* I
expect it's something I'm going to want to hack, but at that level I can
just look at the dependencies.)

For your main point, that user apps belong in a section relevant to
their function, not their implementation, agree 100%.

Steve


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Re: Packages in section python/perl simply because implemented in python/perl

2008-05-24 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:54:52AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
  (NOTE: Am I the only one who thinks descriptions, especially short
  descriptions as in phenny, usually shouldn't tell what language was
  used to implement the program? It's just not relevant to the user.)
 
 I mostly agree with this. The exception would be development tools and
 libraries, where the implementation language can be relevant. OTOH,
 those kind of tools probably should be in the relevant section.
 
 (I sometimes look at implementation language for user apps *if* I
 expect it's something I'm going to want to hack, but at that level I can
 just look at the dependencies.)

True.  And there is debtags which classify by implimentation language:

$ aptitude search ~Gimplemented-in::perl

 For your main point, that user apps belong in a section relevant to
 their function, not their implementation, agree 100%.

Yes.

Osamu


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