Antwort: Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-14 Thread mummertpartner_meskesm






The problem is that I wrote the program in the first place... And it isn't
tcl,
its perl.. (with perl-tk as the gui-lib).

Oops I messed up the language. Should have checked more carefully. But
  still would you mind someone else making the program fit the Debian
  guidelines? I think it is a very nice piece of software. If I had the
  time I would offer help. BTW porting it to libgtk-perl looks
  interesting too.

Assuming someone is interested would you have a problem with it? And where
  exactly does it have problems towards Debian standard?

Michael


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  Mummert+Partner Unternehmensberatung AG
  Tel.: +49211 826  4616





Re: dropped from private? (was Re: Packages that disappeared)

1998-10-14 Thread Michael Meskes
On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 08:02:57PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
 You're back on it.  Michael isn't since he uses a pile of different
 email addresses.  Please always contact the listmaster in case of

Oh boy you bet. This is getting ugly. I have a private account I can only
read from home, a business account also only from home and an office account
I cannot read from home. SInce the latter two are only Notes I'm trying to
keep Debian mail on my private account and forward it to the office too via
aliases at usa.net and gmx.net.

The big problem is I never noticed I was removed from private.

Michael

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Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-13 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I noticed that some packages disappeared from the site. Could anyone
 enlighten me whether they are superceeded, not needed or whatelse happend?
 
 xadmin

My package/program... Removed because it broke to many of the Debian guidelines,
and I don't have the time/will to rewrite it...

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Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-13 Thread Richard Braakman
Michael Meskes wrote:
 I noticed that some packages disappeared from the site. Could anyone
 enlighten me whether they are superceeded, not needed or whatelse happend?
 
 libstdc++2.8
 libg++2.8
 
   I know these are special cases since there is no source. But as long
   as we need the libs we need the packages, don't we? Or do we have
   recompiled everything? On my system there are packages depending on
   them (well I checked only libstdc++2.8 to be honest).

Dan Jacobowitz tried to make a libstdc++2.8 package, but he ran into
strange linking bugs.  The generated library appears to be missing
some symbols.

Please look at the packages in http://master.debian.org/~dan/ if you
think you can help.

 gnome-mico
 gnome-mico-dev
 libgtktty-dev
 libgtktty0
 xadmin

These were removed at the request of their maintainer.

 pentium-builder

I think this was never in main; it was uploaded to experimental.

 movemail

I don't know about this one.

 x11amp-static
 mp3.8hz

These were removed due to patent or license problems.

Richard Braakman



Antwort: Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-13 Thread mummertpartner_meskesm






Dan Jacobowitz tried to make a libstdc++2.8 package, but he ran into
strange linking bugs.  The generated library appears to be missing
some symbols.

Please look at the packages in http://master.debian.org/~dan/ if you
think you can help.
Sorry, no time to do that.

 movemail

I don't know about this one.
AFAIK it comes with netscape. Don't know why I installed it at all. :-)

Michael

Dr. Michael Meskes, Senior-Consultant
Mummert+Partner Unternehmensberatung AG
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Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-13 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 07:44:55PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
 Michael Meskes wrote:
  xadmin
 
 Request by maintainer=author, iirc.

I see.

  x11amp-static
  mp3.8hz
 
 You didn't watch the 100 messages thread on debian-private?

I never got it. In fact I was surprised I didn't get a single mail on
private for at least two months. Could anyone please check whether I'm still
listed there?

Also would you care to summarize?

Michael
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Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-13 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 04:05:19PM -0700, Turbo Fredriksson wrote:
  I noticed that some packages disappeared from the site. Could anyone
  enlighten me whether they are superceeded, not needed or whatelse happend?
  
  xadmin
 
 My package/program... Removed because it broke to many of the Debian 
 guidelines,
 and I don't have the time/will to rewrite it...

I see. But I'm suprised no one else took over. I don't think we have another
program that enables the admin to do this stuff as nicely. I can't because I
don't speak tcl.

Michael
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Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-13 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 07:58:58AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
   x11amp-static
   mp3.8hz
  
  You didn't watch the 100 messages thread on debian-private?
 
 I never got it. In fact I was surprised I didn't get a single mail on
 private for at least two months. Could anyone please check whether I'm still
 listed there?
 
 Also would you care to summarize?

x11ampg at least we have no license to distribute (at all), the package was
also in contrib rather than non-free.  We couldn't contact the author. 
Hopefully at some point that can be resolved, but there was no license at
all distributed with the package.  I'm guessing x11amp-static would have
been an older version or something like that.

mp3.8hz had a nice letter from the owners of a few patents demanding they
start paying a license fee per copy of 8hz-mp3 distributed.  They wanted
essentially $25(didn't give indication, but I'd assume US) per copy with a
minimum yearly payment of $100,000 or something like that.  8hz decided to
panic rather than fight back considering that software patents are iLLEGAL
where 8hz was being developed, and when Debian developers contacted them
they said that it would be best if we didn't distribute it for our own sakes
anymore.

German corporations are as bloodthirsty as American ones are.


I had my copy of 8hz before this all came up.  And I'm not going to get rid
of it--they did say distribute didn't they?


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Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-13 Thread Martin Schulze
Joseph Carter wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 07:58:58AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
x11amp-static
mp3.8hz
   
   You didn't watch the 100 messages thread on debian-private?
  
  I never got it. In fact I was surprised I didn't get a single mail on
  private for at least two months. Could anyone please check whether I'm still
  listed there?

Not with *meskes*.  Send a request to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Regards,

Joey

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dropped from private? (was Re: Packages that disappeared)

1998-10-13 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, Michael Meskes wrote:

 I never got it. In fact I was surprised I didn't get a single mail on
 private for at least two months. Could anyone please check whether I'm still
 listed there?
 

Me too.  I haven't gotten mail from private since about august.

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Re: dropped from private? (was Re: Packages that disappeared)

1998-10-13 Thread Martin Schulze
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
 On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, Michael Meskes wrote:
 
  I never got it. In fact I was surprised I didn't get a single mail on
  private for at least two months. Could anyone please check whether I'm still
  listed there?
  
 
 Me too.  I haven't gotten mail from private since about august.

You're back on it.  Michael isn't since he uses a pile of different
email addresses.  Please always contact the listmaster in case of
problems like mentioned on the bottom of all mails.

Regards,

Joey

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just after one could have used it.



Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-13 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 04:05:19PM -0700, Turbo Fredriksson wrote:
   I noticed that some packages disappeared from the site. Could anyone
   enlighten me whether they are superceeded, not needed or whatelse happend?
   
   xadmin
  
  My package/program... Removed because it broke to many of the Debian 
  guidelines,
  and I don't have the time/will to rewrite it...
 
 I see. But I'm suprised no one else took over. I don't think we have another
 program that enables the admin to do this stuff as nicely. I can't because I
 don't speak tcl.

The problem is that I wrote the program in the first place... And it isn't tcl,
its perl.. (with perl-tk as the gui-lib).

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Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-12 Thread Martin Schulze
Michael Meskes wrote:
 xadmin

Request by maintainer=author, iirc.

 x11amp-static
 mp3.8hz

You didn't watch the 100 messages thread on debian-private?

Regards,

Joey

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Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-12 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 06:13:33PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
 gnome-mico
 gnome-mico-dev

Replaced by an ORB written by the GNOME folks themselves, orbit.

Ray
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