Antwort: Re: Packages that disappeared
The problem is that I wrote the program in the first place... And it isn't tcl, its perl.. (with perl-tk as the gui-lib). Oops I messed up the language. Should have checked more carefully. But still would you mind someone else making the program fit the Debian guidelines? I think it is a very nice piece of software. If I had the time I would offer help. BTW porting it to libgtk-perl looks interesting too. Assuming someone is interested would you have a problem with it? And where exactly does it have problems towards Debian standard? Michael Dr. Michael Meskes, Senior-Consultant Mummert+Partner Unternehmensberatung AG Tel.: +49211 826 4616
Re: dropped from private? (was Re: Packages that disappeared)
On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 08:02:57PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: You're back on it. Michael isn't since he uses a pile of different email addresses. Please always contact the listmaster in case of Oh boy you bet. This is getting ugly. I have a private account I can only read from home, a business account also only from home and an office account I cannot read from home. SInce the latter two are only Notes I'm trying to keep Debian mail on my private account and forward it to the office too via aliases at usa.net and gmx.net. The big problem is I never noticed I was removed from private. Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes | Th.-Heuss-Str. 61, D-41812 Erkelenz | Go SF49ers! Senior-Consultant | business: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Go Rhein Fire! Mummert+Partner | private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Use Debian Unternehmensberatung AG | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| GNU/Linux!
Re: Packages that disappeared
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed that some packages disappeared from the site. Could anyone enlighten me whether they are superceeded, not needed or whatelse happend? xadmin My package/program... Removed because it broke to many of the Debian guidelines, and I don't have the time/will to rewrite it... -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Surrey/B.C./Canada -- explosion CIA Serbian Qaddafi AK-47 FSF BATF NSA Albanian domestic disruption spy PLO assassination arrangements Marxist pgps7BaCnEiff.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Packages that disappeared
Michael Meskes wrote: I noticed that some packages disappeared from the site. Could anyone enlighten me whether they are superceeded, not needed or whatelse happend? libstdc++2.8 libg++2.8 I know these are special cases since there is no source. But as long as we need the libs we need the packages, don't we? Or do we have recompiled everything? On my system there are packages depending on them (well I checked only libstdc++2.8 to be honest). Dan Jacobowitz tried to make a libstdc++2.8 package, but he ran into strange linking bugs. The generated library appears to be missing some symbols. Please look at the packages in http://master.debian.org/~dan/ if you think you can help. gnome-mico gnome-mico-dev libgtktty-dev libgtktty0 xadmin These were removed at the request of their maintainer. pentium-builder I think this was never in main; it was uploaded to experimental. movemail I don't know about this one. x11amp-static mp3.8hz These were removed due to patent or license problems. Richard Braakman
Antwort: Re: Packages that disappeared
Dan Jacobowitz tried to make a libstdc++2.8 package, but he ran into strange linking bugs. The generated library appears to be missing some symbols. Please look at the packages in http://master.debian.org/~dan/ if you think you can help. Sorry, no time to do that. movemail I don't know about this one. AFAIK it comes with netscape. Don't know why I installed it at all. :-) Michael Dr. Michael Meskes, Senior-Consultant Mummert+Partner Unternehmensberatung AG Tel.: +49211 826 4616
Re: Packages that disappeared
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 07:44:55PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: Michael Meskes wrote: xadmin Request by maintainer=author, iirc. I see. x11amp-static mp3.8hz You didn't watch the 100 messages thread on debian-private? I never got it. In fact I was surprised I didn't get a single mail on private for at least two months. Could anyone please check whether I'm still listed there? Also would you care to summarize? Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes | Th.-Heuss-Str. 61, D-41812 Erkelenz | Go SF49ers! Senior-Consultant | business: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Go Rhein Fire! Mummert+Partner | private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Use Debian Unternehmensberatung AG | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| GNU/Linux!
Re: Packages that disappeared
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 04:05:19PM -0700, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: I noticed that some packages disappeared from the site. Could anyone enlighten me whether they are superceeded, not needed or whatelse happend? xadmin My package/program... Removed because it broke to many of the Debian guidelines, and I don't have the time/will to rewrite it... I see. But I'm suprised no one else took over. I don't think we have another program that enables the admin to do this stuff as nicely. I can't because I don't speak tcl. Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes | Th.-Heuss-Str. 61, D-41812 Erkelenz | Go SF49ers! Senior-Consultant | business: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Go Rhein Fire! Mummert+Partner | private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Use Debian Unternehmensberatung AG | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| GNU/Linux!
Re: Packages that disappeared
On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 07:58:58AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: x11amp-static mp3.8hz You didn't watch the 100 messages thread on debian-private? I never got it. In fact I was surprised I didn't get a single mail on private for at least two months. Could anyone please check whether I'm still listed there? Also would you care to summarize? x11ampg at least we have no license to distribute (at all), the package was also in contrib rather than non-free. We couldn't contact the author. Hopefully at some point that can be resolved, but there was no license at all distributed with the package. I'm guessing x11amp-static would have been an older version or something like that. mp3.8hz had a nice letter from the owners of a few patents demanding they start paying a license fee per copy of 8hz-mp3 distributed. They wanted essentially $25(didn't give indication, but I'd assume US) per copy with a minimum yearly payment of $100,000 or something like that. 8hz decided to panic rather than fight back considering that software patents are iLLEGAL where 8hz was being developed, and when Debian developers contacted them they said that it would be best if we didn't distribute it for our own sakes anymore. German corporations are as bloodthirsty as American ones are. I had my copy of 8hz before this all came up. And I'm not going to get rid of it--they did say distribute didn't they? pgpP7qSc84oTL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Packages that disappeared
Joseph Carter wrote: On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 07:58:58AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: x11amp-static mp3.8hz You didn't watch the 100 messages thread on debian-private? I never got it. In fact I was surprised I didn't get a single mail on private for at least two months. Could anyone please check whether I'm still listed there? Not with *meskes*. Send a request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Joey -- Experience is a useful thing. Unfortunately it is only acquired just after one could have used it.
dropped from private? (was Re: Packages that disappeared)
On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, Michael Meskes wrote: I never got it. In fact I was surprised I didn't get a single mail on private for at least two months. Could anyone please check whether I'm still listed there? Me too. I haven't gotten mail from private since about august. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dropped from private? (was Re: Packages that disappeared)
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, Michael Meskes wrote: I never got it. In fact I was surprised I didn't get a single mail on private for at least two months. Could anyone please check whether I'm still listed there? Me too. I haven't gotten mail from private since about august. You're back on it. Michael isn't since he uses a pile of different email addresses. Please always contact the listmaster in case of problems like mentioned on the bottom of all mails. Regards, Joey -- Experience is a useful thing. Unfortunately it is only acquired just after one could have used it.
Re: Packages that disappeared
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 04:05:19PM -0700, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: I noticed that some packages disappeared from the site. Could anyone enlighten me whether they are superceeded, not needed or whatelse happend? xadmin My package/program... Removed because it broke to many of the Debian guidelines, and I don't have the time/will to rewrite it... I see. But I'm suprised no one else took over. I don't think we have another program that enables the admin to do this stuff as nicely. I can't because I don't speak tcl. The problem is that I wrote the program in the first place... And it isn't tcl, its perl.. (with perl-tk as the gui-lib). -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( D | e | b | i | a | n ) Debian Certified Linux Developer \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ Surrey/B.C./Canada -- assassination $400 million in gold bullion bomb Delta Force NSA Kennedy plutonium Qaddafi Treasury quiche terrorist nuclear SEAL Team 6 DES Serbian pgpcinhe01y3q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Packages that disappeared
Michael Meskes wrote: xadmin Request by maintainer=author, iirc. x11amp-static mp3.8hz You didn't watch the 100 messages thread on debian-private? Regards, Joey -- Linux - the choice of a GNU generation
Re: Packages that disappeared
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 06:13:33PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: gnome-mico gnome-mico-dev Replaced by an ORB written by the GNOME folks themselves, orbit. Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan